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Post by dolemite on Nov 29, 2004 18:36:27 GMT -5
just a quick note: permission to add any of the marvel characters i've done to your site as well. great site btw. Do you have your characters in a convinent format for me?
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Post by angel on Dec 15, 2004 18:34:40 GMT -5
i can tranfer them as soon as i get the chance...
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Post by dolemite on Dec 16, 2004 8:52:10 GMT -5
The site was update with some write-up from Vassago and my own stuff. Well over 100 write-ups now. www.sachau.net/murpg
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Post by Lord Zack on Jul 24, 2005 15:36:00 GMT -5
Could you post background information on all/some of these characters? It's kind of hard to use a character if you don't have information on them.
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Post by vicsage on Aug 24, 2006 15:18:01 GMT -5
Dolemite, this is great. I was looking for (classic) Alpha Flight stats. I was just re-reading issues 1 through 28 (the Byrne years). Puck is my favorite--before he got all mystical and wasn't really a natural non-superpowered dwarf but was just a tough, acrobatic charmer suffering from achondroplasia!
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Post by vicsage on Aug 24, 2006 15:22:24 GMT -5
One note: Is being a dwarf really the same as having a "nonhuman appearance"? That could be construed as seiously offensive if taken in the wrong way.
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Post by rennyn on Aug 24, 2006 15:30:32 GMT -5
One note: Is being a dwarf really the same as having a "nonhuman appearance"? That could be construed as seiously offensive if taken in the wrong way. *rolls eyes* Well then technically almost any other appearance in the game could be offensive. Maybe your character has two heads. Well, there's a baby in India born like that. Better not offend her. Maybe your character has a third arm. Well, genetic abnormalities have done that too. Better not offend them. Maybe your character was born with no eyes. Better not offend those people either. Lets just rename the Challenge to "Statistically Deviant Homo Sapiens Appearance", then make a new challenge for the truely non-human things like glowing eyes, and instead of "Heroes" in the game we can just have "Genetically or Cosmically or Magically Lucky Individuals" so as not to offend the less successful people in life.
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Post by vicsage on Aug 24, 2006 15:54:23 GMT -5
I think "nonhuman" is meant for characters like the Thing, the Hulk, etc.--not humans who are slightly outside the bell curve. I know you think your reply is cute, but really.
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Post by vicsage on Aug 24, 2006 15:55:16 GMT -5
So I guess by your standards someone with Down syndrome is nonhuman?
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Post by vicsage on Aug 24, 2006 16:43:42 GMT -5
I think some people on here don't understand what "nonhuman appearance" means. It means you DON'T LOOK HUMAN, you can't pass for human. Otherwise the Human Torch would have it whenever he flames on, Mr. Fantastic would have it when he stretches, Iceman would have it when he ices over, and so on. It's for characters like the Thing, Skrulls, the Abomination, Nightcrawler, and the like--not somebody wearing an eyepatch but otherwise normal, someone missing an arm but otherwise normal. Geez.
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Post by rennyn on Aug 24, 2006 16:50:31 GMT -5
So I guess by your standards someone with Down syndrome is nonhuman? It'd certainly be worth a point or so. People with Down Syndrome look different than the 'norm' and extra attention would be drawn to them and it would make them stand out more and be easier to remember. Of course, that might be already included in their basic Challenge for it, depending on how much it affects them, since Down Syndrome can be very very minor or very severe. This challenge in the book is meant to work for anyone who would stand out and be better recognized or harder to hide. Glowing eyes and green skin are included, at a high challenge rating, as are smaller things that just make it harder for a Hero or Villain to blend in or might hinder social interactions.
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Post by dorkknight23 on Aug 24, 2006 17:13:54 GMT -5
Okay. 1) Puck's stats. They definitely need more than a little work, but he isn't nonpowered. Puck definitely has super powers. His dwarfism is in fact mystical in nature (a side effect of sealing the sorcerer Black Razeer within the Blade of Baghdad.) Read more about it here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_%28comics%292) Dwarfism wouldn't count under "Non-Human Appearance." Neither would Down Syndrome. However, both would qualify as a Minor Disability (maybe 2 or 3 stones?) I don't think anyone's debating the meaning of Non-Human Appearance to mean anything other than unusual cosmetic appearances (like The Thing, Nightcrawler, or even Gambit with his red pupilless eyes.) But normal human appearances with a missing arm or eye don't, although if they impact play (i.e. you want negative situational modifiers in certain situations,) I might impose a one stone challenge. 3) These kind of write-ups are 100% unofficial. You don't like them, come up with your own. I've been meaning to do my own Puck writeup, for example.
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Post by vicsage on Aug 24, 2006 17:55:07 GMT -5
There ya go. I always alter most of the write-ups on here if I'm going to use them. People tend to overestimate their favorites. And I choose to ignore the "mystical" developments that were added to Puck after John Byrne stopped writing Alpha Flight. I like him the way he was. Thanks for all the help and input, though!
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Post by vicsage on Aug 24, 2006 18:29:13 GMT -5
By the by, I don't mean to upset anyone. Just thought it seemed a little odd to call someone "nonhuman-looking" when he's merely a short person.
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Post by beryl on Aug 24, 2006 21:58:59 GMT -5
I'm going to have to side with DK on this. Humans come in all shapes and sizes, but blue fur and red, pupil-less eyes are not found naturally in humans. The "Non-human appearance" challenge - IMO - comes from an inability to disguise your inhuman nature, and thereby escape discrimination. Those of us with appearances contrary to the accepted standard differ in this way, because though they are different, they are still recognized as human. It's a larger leap (especially in the Marvel Universe) from Human to Mutant than it is from Human to Slightly-Different-Looking-Human. Of course, these differences may still merit challenges, but perhaps for other reasons.
And on a side note, the Modify Post button is available in the upper-right corner of each of your posts, for those of us who have things to add, but don't want to double- or triple-post.
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