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Post by UrbanBlue on Mar 28, 2012 15:21:16 GMT -5
I read about the dark ages of comics in the 80's (and I think 90's) when it seemed like every character was given a level in, well, violence. Persoanlly, though, what comic have you read that was the most over the top violent?
I have two, one from American and One From Japanese Comics:
American: Punisher MAX Japanese: Battle Royale.
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 28, 2012 15:45:45 GMT -5
That was the mid-to late 90's. The 80's and even the early 90's were pretty sedate in comics.
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Post by Hypester on Mar 28, 2012 15:52:18 GMT -5
For me, it was Authority until I read Invincible
Never read the MAX stuff...
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Post by UrbanBlue on Mar 28, 2012 16:20:47 GMT -5
That was the mid-to late 90's. The 80's and even the early 90's were pretty sedate in comics. Good to know.
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Post by ironfox on Mar 28, 2012 23:31:16 GMT -5
I think I have to second Invincible. This is by no means the worse.
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Post by UrbanBlue on Mar 29, 2012 0:20:44 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I guess Invincible is pretty bad.
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Post by Beacon on Mar 29, 2012 1:49:41 GMT -5
I kind of like the way Invincible does it. The story and art are generally so light and upbeat that the shots of people covered in blood is jarring. It should be jarring. When the main character got progressively more violent as the series went on some of the other characters called him on it.
DC and Marvel don’t seem to have any problem with excessive violence … as long as it isn’t Superman, Batman, or Spider-Man doing it.
Granted what is considered “acceptable” violence is always changing. The Authority used to be “edgy” but now its pretty mild compared to stuff like Siege and Blackest Night. Heck, I just saw a DISNEY movie where the hero decapitates a sentient alien when he could have easily just subdued him.
Speaking of movies … isn’t that whole “Hunger Games” thing just a westernized Battle Royale knockoff? That’s gotta be pretty violent, right?
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Post by cambanks on Mar 29, 2012 10:03:14 GMT -5
Battle Royale is about murderous Japanese high school violence. The Hunger Games is a dystopic homage to Spartacus. It is not a ripoff of Battle Royale, as much as fans of Battle Royale and critics of the Hunger Games would love for this to be true.
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 29, 2012 10:56:55 GMT -5
Battle Royale is about murderous Japanese high school violence. The Hunger Games is a dystopic homage to Spartacus. It is not a ripoff of Battle Royale, as much as fans of Battle Royale and critics of the Hunger Games would love for this to be true. I would second this. While I'm not a huge fan of Hunger Games (though to be fair, I haven't seen the movie), I would say that it is very different from Battle Royale, both thematically and practically.
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Post by Beacon on Mar 29, 2012 11:57:04 GMT -5
My knowledge of the Hunger Games is pretty minimal but the trailers gave me the impression that the story was about a bunch of kids who are forced to fight each other for the entertainment of others.
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 29, 2012 11:59:26 GMT -5
My knowledge of the Hunger Games is pretty minimal but the trailers gave me the impression that the story was about a bunch of kids who are forced to fight each other for the entertainment of others. Well, yes, but that's a pretty minimalist treatment. ;D
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Post by UrbanBlue on Mar 29, 2012 18:40:25 GMT -5
Battle Royale is one of two comic books I actually tell people NOT to read.
The other is Wanted.
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Post by GhostKnight on Mar 30, 2012 0:10:44 GMT -5
I thought the most bloody comics were the ones with the name Liefeld in them. I have never read the Authority, is it any good? Speaking of movies … isn’t that whole “Hunger Games” thing just a westernized Battle Royale knockoff? That’s gotta be pretty violent, right? I thought about that too after I saw the movie but in Battle Royale AFAIK there is no sponsors and the its more senseless violence and sadism than "entertainment" for bloodlusty citizens. Also the Hunger games focus more on survival than in killing the other kids... I guess. Punisher MAX, I liked the first ones, the Punisher butchering a party of mobsters in the 100th birthday of their great/grand/father and who can't forget the slavers episode? Then there was this Mexican chapter that I didn't like that much and then the Kingpin, Bullseye and Elektra appear and the comic looks less and less "serious". What's not to like about Wanted? I mean, we have unsympathetic characters raping and murdering without a second thought, a protagonist (Eminem) that I WANTED to see dead from the very first chapter, Halle Berry as a nympho bitch, a villain made of feces that kill a man via "dysentery", a moral that says you are a looser and a kryptonite condom to wrap it up... And don't forget the "I love you daddy even if you ABANDONED me to keep FUCKING Halle Berry and made me a waste of person like you."
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 30, 2012 6:09:41 GMT -5
Actually I wouldn't even say that there is a "bloodthirsty audience" in Hunger Games. The people really shouldn't be blamed for what their government has hoisted on them. It's their fault that they went along with it, but it was their government (which is tyrannical and not elected) that told them that this was how things would be.
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Post by roxolid on Mar 30, 2012 6:11:57 GMT -5
I guess with Invincible you expect a light hearted 4 colour comic book story then get the occasional splatterfest which really shocks, but it's not a constant thing that numbs you to shock over time, so in my opinion it's well paced and the blood/gore is relevant to the story. As for violence, the Ultimates got bad in places, what with Hulk and Blob eating people (was it Blob who looked up whilst eating the Wasp and said something like 'Tastes like chicken' with her entrails running down his front? Anyway, Hank Pym picked him up then bit his head off and spat it out.)
So the Ultimate line of comics is probably somewhere in the most violent, I'd say. I think Captain America plucks a guys eye out in one.
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