Post by bootmobile on Jul 27, 2003 0:12:14 GMT -5
((The formating of this came out pretty messy, if you go down to the third post there are links to two places you can find the original file which is much more tidy.))
Here are the numbers I came up with for the creation costs of the characters in the Guide to the X-Men. I did not include any challenges into the totals (besides mutant and dead broke)as it seemed to me it would take as long to try to guess at these as it did just to do the totals.
BTW we have a new champion! Check out Onslaught’s total! (And I think Apocalypse should probably be worth more, charging 110w for his transform self was low-balling it significantly really. Plus the only gear I charged him for was the armour.)
The worst is Anarchist at 14w 2r, only 2w 1r above a lowly Brood.
Character Abilities Actions Modifiers Gear Total
Anarchist 6w 8w 2r 3w 0w 14w 2r
Apocalypse 41w 122w 155w 3w+ 318w
~Made the Transform worth 10w for unlimited forms +100w the rest of it.
~Made Manipulate Matter a +3 cost (+2 for extraordinary power, +1 for create/manipulate)
~I didn’t charge for Celestial Ship. Couldn’t begin to guess.
Archangel 9w 19w 17w 2r 0w 42w 2r
Avalanche 5w 2r 28w 2r 2r 3w 35w
Banshee 5w 2r 55w 3w 0w 60w 2r
Bishop 9w 2r 24w 6w 1r 30w 67w
Brood 6w 1r 1w 5w 0w 12w 1r
Brood, First Born 6w 1r 3w 7w 0w 16w 1r
Caliban 20w 2r 21w 1r 21w 0w 58w
Callisto 8w 17w 2r 7w 0w 27w 2r
Cannonball 8w 2r 30w 1w 1r 0w 36w 2r
Captain Britain 34w 36w 6w 2r 15w 86w 2r
~Gave him a 5w challenge for being restricted to Britain.
~Excaliber is about the same as Moonstar’s ghoststaff so I gave it the same 12w cost.
Cassandra Nova 28w 82w 1r 27w 0w 134w 1r
Chamber 6w 27w 2r 4w 2r 0w 35w 1r
Colossus 29w 18w 29w 1r 0w 73w 1r
Fabian Cortez 5w 2r 24w 1r 2r 0w 27w 2r
Cypher 10w 5w 2r 5w 2r 0w 17w 1r
~Gave him the 1w can’t drive challenge listed.
Dazzler 5w 2r 54w 2r 2r 0w 28w
Dead Girl 6w 19w 2r 13w 0w 33w 2r
Domino 6w 1r 33w 19w 2r 0w 56w
Doop 78w 87w 60w 0w 225w
~Gave Mastery a +10 to cost. A pure guess, I have never read a comic with him/her/it.
~Gave a 5w cost to the hold anything modifier.
~gave a +2 to cost for being able to apply Mental Defense to others.
Exodus 21w 1r 81w 2r 4w 0w 104w
Forge 13w 4r 66w 22w 64w 162w 1r
Emma Frost 26w 1r 89w 1r 53w 2r 0w 166w 1r
Gateway 5w 2r 43w 0w 0w 43w 2r
Havok 5w 2r 33w 1w 0w 36w 2r
Husk 10w 42w 1r 1r 0w 49w 2r
Iceman 5w 2r 33w 3w 2r 0w 39w 1r
Jubilee 5w 2r 19w 2r 0w 22w 1r
Juggernaut 25w 2r 35w 25w 18w 101w 2r
~Gave a 15w cost to helmet.
Lady Deathstrike 12w 22w 2r 29w 2w 65w 2r
Lifeguard 15w 72w 6w 0w 90w
Longshot 9w 1r 40w 17w 0w 64w 1r
M 19w 2 21w 2r 20w 1r 0w 58w 2r
Magik 7w 67w 5w 6w 82w
Marrow 6w 10w 15w 2r 0w 28w 2r
Meltdown 5w 2r 14w 4w 2r 0w 21w 1r
Mimic 4w 2r 6w 1r 30w 1r 0w 41w 1r
Mr. Sinister 27w 84w 44w 3w 155w
Moonstar 5w 2r 24w 5w 31w 62w 2r
Multiple Man 5w 2r 8w 3w 2r 0w 41w 1r
Nightcrawler 8w 1r 25w 10w 2r 0w 41w
Northstar 16w 1r 26w 2r 9w 3w 52w
Omega Red 18w 1r 73w 2w 3w 93w 1r
Onslaught 57w 222w 2r 27w 32w 338w 2r
Orphan 6w 17w 23w 0w 43w
Polaris 6w 1r 36w 1w 2r 0w 41w
Professor X 15w 2r 144w 2r 7w 46w 210w 1r
Psylocke 6w 2r 81w 6w 2r 0w 91w 1r
Pyro 5w 2r 16w 2r 2r 0w 19w 2r
Sage 11w 97w 9w 0w 114w
Sauron 17w 1r 106w 8w 12w 146w 1r
~I’m not sure he should get so many of his Actions in both forms as they have it listed, but I used their numbers anyway.
Sentinel 13w 2r 82w 18w 0w 113w 2r
Shadowcat 7w 1r 24w 2r 7w 2r 45w 80w 2r
~Note Nearsighted (1w) and Lockheed (45w).
Slipstream 6w 25w 1r 2r 3w 32w
Stacy X 5w 2r 27w 1r 0w 0w 28w
Nathan/Cable 15w 1r 63w 24w 2r 6e 86w 1r
~Note he gets a 20w challenge from T-O infection.
Rachel Summers 9w 1r 134w 3w 2r 0w 144
Sunfire 9w 1r 86w 30w 0w 120w 1r
~Treated Psionic Fields as Toughness +4 (no AP, no 2x) –1 CL plus Energy Defense 4.
Sunspot 8w 2r 42w 2r 4w 0w 52w 1r
Thunderbird 5w 2r 50w 1r 2r 0w 53w 2r
Venus Dee Milo 3w 2r 32w 2r 11w 0w 44w 1r
Warpath 23w 2r 17w 2r 8w 1r 0w 16w 2r
Wolfsbane 19w 1r 10w 23w 2r 0w 50w
~Some guess work here. I treated both the human and transitional forms as lesser forms.
Xorn 8w 88w 3w 0w 90w
~Chose the 4 Durability.
~Gave him a challenge of 6w for the whole no head thing.
Here are the numbers I came up with for the creation costs of the characters in the Guide to the X-Men. I did not include any challenges into the totals (besides mutant and dead broke)as it seemed to me it would take as long to try to guess at these as it did just to do the totals.
BTW we have a new champion! Check out Onslaught’s total! (And I think Apocalypse should probably be worth more, charging 110w for his transform self was low-balling it significantly really. Plus the only gear I charged him for was the armour.)
The worst is Anarchist at 14w 2r, only 2w 1r above a lowly Brood.
Character Abilities Actions Modifiers Gear Total
Anarchist 6w 8w 2r 3w 0w 14w 2r
Apocalypse 41w 122w 155w 3w+ 318w
~Made the Transform worth 10w for unlimited forms +100w the rest of it.
~Made Manipulate Matter a +3 cost (+2 for extraordinary power, +1 for create/manipulate)
~I didn’t charge for Celestial Ship. Couldn’t begin to guess.
Archangel 9w 19w 17w 2r 0w 42w 2r
Avalanche 5w 2r 28w 2r 2r 3w 35w
Banshee 5w 2r 55w 3w 0w 60w 2r
Bishop 9w 2r 24w 6w 1r 30w 67w
Brood 6w 1r 1w 5w 0w 12w 1r
Brood, First Born 6w 1r 3w 7w 0w 16w 1r
Caliban 20w 2r 21w 1r 21w 0w 58w
Callisto 8w 17w 2r 7w 0w 27w 2r
Cannonball 8w 2r 30w 1w 1r 0w 36w 2r
Captain Britain 34w 36w 6w 2r 15w 86w 2r
~Gave him a 5w challenge for being restricted to Britain.
~Excaliber is about the same as Moonstar’s ghoststaff so I gave it the same 12w cost.
Cassandra Nova 28w 82w 1r 27w 0w 134w 1r
Chamber 6w 27w 2r 4w 2r 0w 35w 1r
Colossus 29w 18w 29w 1r 0w 73w 1r
Fabian Cortez 5w 2r 24w 1r 2r 0w 27w 2r
Cypher 10w 5w 2r 5w 2r 0w 17w 1r
~Gave him the 1w can’t drive challenge listed.
Dazzler 5w 2r 54w 2r 2r 0w 28w
Dead Girl 6w 19w 2r 13w 0w 33w 2r
Domino 6w 1r 33w 19w 2r 0w 56w
Doop 78w 87w 60w 0w 225w
~Gave Mastery a +10 to cost. A pure guess, I have never read a comic with him/her/it.
~Gave a 5w cost to the hold anything modifier.
~gave a +2 to cost for being able to apply Mental Defense to others.
Exodus 21w 1r 81w 2r 4w 0w 104w
Forge 13w 4r 66w 22w 64w 162w 1r
Emma Frost 26w 1r 89w 1r 53w 2r 0w 166w 1r
Gateway 5w 2r 43w 0w 0w 43w 2r
Havok 5w 2r 33w 1w 0w 36w 2r
Husk 10w 42w 1r 1r 0w 49w 2r
Iceman 5w 2r 33w 3w 2r 0w 39w 1r
Jubilee 5w 2r 19w 2r 0w 22w 1r
Juggernaut 25w 2r 35w 25w 18w 101w 2r
~Gave a 15w cost to helmet.
Lady Deathstrike 12w 22w 2r 29w 2w 65w 2r
Lifeguard 15w 72w 6w 0w 90w
Longshot 9w 1r 40w 17w 0w 64w 1r
M 19w 2 21w 2r 20w 1r 0w 58w 2r
Magik 7w 67w 5w 6w 82w
Marrow 6w 10w 15w 2r 0w 28w 2r
Meltdown 5w 2r 14w 4w 2r 0w 21w 1r
Mimic 4w 2r 6w 1r 30w 1r 0w 41w 1r
Mr. Sinister 27w 84w 44w 3w 155w
Moonstar 5w 2r 24w 5w 31w 62w 2r
Multiple Man 5w 2r 8w 3w 2r 0w 41w 1r
Nightcrawler 8w 1r 25w 10w 2r 0w 41w
Northstar 16w 1r 26w 2r 9w 3w 52w
Omega Red 18w 1r 73w 2w 3w 93w 1r
Onslaught 57w 222w 2r 27w 32w 338w 2r
Orphan 6w 17w 23w 0w 43w
Polaris 6w 1r 36w 1w 2r 0w 41w
Professor X 15w 2r 144w 2r 7w 46w 210w 1r
Psylocke 6w 2r 81w 6w 2r 0w 91w 1r
Pyro 5w 2r 16w 2r 2r 0w 19w 2r
Sage 11w 97w 9w 0w 114w
Sauron 17w 1r 106w 8w 12w 146w 1r
~I’m not sure he should get so many of his Actions in both forms as they have it listed, but I used their numbers anyway.
Sentinel 13w 2r 82w 18w 0w 113w 2r
Shadowcat 7w 1r 24w 2r 7w 2r 45w 80w 2r
~Note Nearsighted (1w) and Lockheed (45w).
Slipstream 6w 25w 1r 2r 3w 32w
Stacy X 5w 2r 27w 1r 0w 0w 28w
Nathan/Cable 15w 1r 63w 24w 2r 6e 86w 1r
~Note he gets a 20w challenge from T-O infection.
Rachel Summers 9w 1r 134w 3w 2r 0w 144
Sunfire 9w 1r 86w 30w 0w 120w 1r
~Treated Psionic Fields as Toughness +4 (no AP, no 2x) –1 CL plus Energy Defense 4.
Sunspot 8w 2r 42w 2r 4w 0w 52w 1r
Thunderbird 5w 2r 50w 1r 2r 0w 53w 2r
Venus Dee Milo 3w 2r 32w 2r 11w 0w 44w 1r
Warpath 23w 2r 17w 2r 8w 1r 0w 16w 2r
Wolfsbane 19w 1r 10w 23w 2r 0w 50w
~Some guess work here. I treated both the human and transitional forms as lesser forms.
Xorn 8w 88w 3w 0w 90w
~Chose the 4 Durability.
~Gave him a challenge of 6w for the whole no head thing.