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Post by WildKnight on Feb 25, 2009 10:31:41 GMT -5
If you apply the 6 stone limit to the other branches of magic, magic will be, no offense, useless
A 6 stone magical blast will have NO chance of getting past the defenses of the majority of opponents you face, much less doing so with any noticeable effect.
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Post by Dionon on Feb 25, 2009 10:32:50 GMT -5
Exactly, which is why I'd like pretty much all the Magical restrictions lifted.... To be honest.. Magic is just HexSpheres with different flavor...
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 25, 2009 10:55:43 GMT -5
Uh... no
Hex Spheres cannot do most of the things that magic can, and certainly not with any reliability.
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Post by Dionon on Feb 25, 2009 11:04:59 GMT -5
*shrugs* It's the combined Mastery of Magic/Sorcery... It has Sorcery's versatility if you take Mastery of Magic's time....
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 25, 2009 11:07:43 GMT -5
You're confused as to how Hex Spheres works, I see.
You're thinking "hey, I'm the Scarlet Witch. I can make the whole world mutants!"
Go back and read 70's and 80's era comics. Thats what Hex Spheres REALLY does within the context of MURPG. No House of M for you. Sorry.
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Post by Dionon on Feb 25, 2009 11:23:42 GMT -5
Uh... read Hexspheres.... It literally says "anything is possible if you spend a panel to prepare"
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Post by White on Feb 25, 2009 11:31:11 GMT -5
Dio... read some comics when Scarlet Witch had these abilities, because now it's not Hex Spheres anymore. It's anything but Hex Spheres. Now, she just waprs reality to do what she wants and Hex Spheres were what she did at the very beginning of her career.
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Post by malice on Feb 25, 2009 11:33:00 GMT -5
I hope we meet Scarlet Witch in the Body Count game. Making her a corpse would be almost as satisfying as killing Wolverine (We already kinda killed him, but the party member who got him just added him to his "collection" of vanquished supers)
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Post by Dionon on Feb 25, 2009 11:35:05 GMT -5
Dio... read some comics when Scarlet Witch had these abilities, because now it's not Hex Spheres anymore. It's anything but Hex Spheres. Now, she just waprs reality to do what she wants and Hex Spheres were what she did at the very beginning of her career. I'm not caring about the Scarlet Witch.... I'm caring about what's worded in the power itself. As per the power itself, if you take a panel to prep, and pay the cost, you get whatever effect you want.
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 25, 2009 11:58:11 GMT -5
Uh... read Hexspheres.... It literally says "anything is possible if you spend a panel to prepare" No... it never says that remotely. It says "If your Hex-Sphere was large enough to affect the intended target, and if your description FITS THE NATURE OF WHAT'S GOING ON <emphasis mine>" In other words, your target has to be within Range 4 and the effect you desire has to be within the potential of current occurrences. That restriction ALONE means that you cannot do a huge number of things that magic can accomplish (summoning, just for one) The "control" you're referring to states that you have to spend 1 panel PER STONE OF EFFECT plus one additional stone per stone of effect, and all it says is that you may "define your effect more accurately"... you still lack fine control, as you would with Magic. The difference is HUGE my friend. Sorry.
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Post by Dionon on Feb 25, 2009 12:04:25 GMT -5
*sigh and shrugs* Still, really not caring... All I wanted was a more precise definition of Magic, and Restriction 1 removed. The Hexspeheres just comes up because it's so damned powerful. And nothing you say can change my mind on that one. Chaos Magic or not, if I spend 8 stones on area with the effect of "I want everyone to have their fondest wish" Guess what... everyone within 8 stones gets their fondest wish... It might not be what they consciously wish for (Like Wolverine's love affair with Mystique in House of M) but it still happens.
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 25, 2009 12:19:23 GMT -5
No, it doesn't
Please, READ WHAT I JUST QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM THE BOOK.
It MUST be in keeping with what is currently going on. Hex Spheres alters probability... it doesn't give you fluid command of reality!
You can hold whatever ideas you want, but the rules say you're wrong, and everybody else's understanding of the power says you're wrong...
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Post by alanee on Feb 25, 2009 13:26:56 GMT -5
And remember that it is limited to your line of sight AND one stone per target, so I really doubt that it could make granting everybody their deepest wish possible.
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Post by Neros on Feb 26, 2009 12:49:28 GMT -5
Remeber that the stones you spend in Hex Sphere is not Area Effect.. And you can't place 8 stones and have it affect everyone within a area of 8.. Those 8 stones would be used to affect one target.. Its stated that theres only One target per Hex Sphere..
And as said, you have no real control of whats gona happen.. You can prepare a panel, but Wildknight is right.. Its 1 panel per stone spend.. And even then, the GM can say always alter it... Its chaos magic for a very low cost after all..
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Post by Dionon on Feb 27, 2009 0:57:01 GMT -5
Guys, you missed the point... I gave up, I don't care what Hexspheres says... it was a bad example, and I've already said that... Move on.
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