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Post by takewithfood on Nov 13, 2010 15:59:40 GMT -5
Sorry, not buying at that stall, no matter how friendly the merchant looks. I'm not the kind of guy who gets his panties in a wad over GTA, etc, but this is just plain disgusting. Actually, the "Princess" one seems considerably more so than the X-Men Whorehouse, but I wouldn't bother blinking if it were all I had to do to stop the only copy of either from being permanently destroyed. Wow, then you're really not going to like Rapelay. ^__^ ~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Nov 13, 2010 17:20:45 GMT -5
I'm not even going to click that.
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Post by Jet on Nov 13, 2010 18:13:21 GMT -5
Dont. Its for different kind of people.
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Post by GhostKnight on Nov 14, 2010 19:09:31 GMT -5
What amazes me is that nobody on this board came out with the idea first. *cough*F-Bomb*cough* F-Bomb definitely thought of having sex with female X-Men WAY before this game came out... No doubt about that at all. But I thought F would come with a campaign with the game's plot.
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Post by malice on Nov 15, 2010 3:06:39 GMT -5
@brainstem: Thanks for sharing... kinda. There's actually way more creepy stuff online, which is actually comforting sometimes. @wk: In this case, thankfully, the fact that this exists does NOT mean there's a market for it. It's no different from the flash games people make and put online: Free, and therefore free of the market requirement. You can make a game where you just give people haircuts with the mouse button and post it on a site without anyone but you ever wanting to play it. You could make a "scrub the bathtub" flash game, or a "move at all and DIE INSTANTLY" RPG. Not defending it or anything, and I'm not even attacking your disgust with the human race, just pointing out that this game is exactly as meaningful as it looks. raynorn: Assassin's Creed II is a wonderful game. I had a great time playing it, can't wait for Brotherhood. The first Assassin's Creed was OK, but it was so repetitive that I actually played much of it during my "Time to NOT pay attention to the game" time (This is the time I talk to my GF on the phone, I can't multi-task well so when I'm on the phone with her is when I do the "time-consuming but tedious" things) . I also scan planets in Mass Effect 2 during this time, and rode around in the Mako in Mass Effect 1 during this time. That's how demanding the first Assassin's Creed was. Assassin's Creed II does a much better job of switching things up, and the world comes alive and rewards your attention. I love that game, I was glad to lose myself in it for the few days it took me to beat it (Which was actually a good amount of time. The story was nice and long for an action adventure game). I also love games that give you a sandbox to play in.
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Post by WildKnight on Nov 15, 2010 7:13:34 GMT -5
I hear you, but just take a look at how many people on this very board think they must play this game. That alone disturbs the ever-living crud out of me.
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Post by Jet on Nov 15, 2010 7:37:19 GMT -5
The fact that I want to see something thats weird and unusual for my own eyes is weird to you? Do what you want WK, but I prefer to check stuff out before passing judgement. I read a lot of porn and hentai that made me laugh becouse of the genuinely funny story. Whats so bad about it?
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Post by raynorn on Nov 15, 2010 7:50:02 GMT -5
. . . but I wouldn't bother blinking if it were all I had to do to stop the only copy of either from being permanently destroyed. The I don't like it so no one can have it, book burning mentality disturbs me much more than any of the games mentioned here. If you don't like it don't play it, pretty easy. Side note: If Princess Maker gets you bunched up . . . It is good that you did not click on Rapelay, rape simulator is where even my admittedly high level of morbid curiosity draws the line.
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Post by WildKnight on Nov 15, 2010 9:54:17 GMT -5
First of all, I'm not advocating book burning. I'm saying that I wouldn't see any need to preserve this crap for future generations. There is a difference (I guess if you're working from the perspective that allowing a "book burning" is as bad as participating, then fine, I'm all for "book" burning in this case, cuz I sure as heck wouldn't bat an eyelash to stop this from passing from existence forever).
Second of all, some things should not exist and be available to the public ever, period. If that disturbs you, great. Amazon was until recently selling an ebook that instructed pedophiles on how to commit, and get away with, their crimes. That is indefensible. The First Amendment guarantees you the right to speak... NOT the right to be heard.
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Post by takewithfood on Nov 15, 2010 10:48:21 GMT -5
Oh WK. Shine on, you crazy diamond.
~TWF
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Post by raynorn on Nov 15, 2010 12:57:49 GMT -5
. . .Amazon was until recently selling an ebook that instructed pedophiles on how to commit, and get away with, their crimes. That is indefensible. The First Amendment guarantees you the right to speak... NOT the right to be heard. Are you really comparing the above to Jean Grey presented as willing prostitute? Really? For me this is a [glow=red,2,300]massive[/glow] difference. FYI: In the book example above I would cheerfully hand you the match, and grab us some hot dogs and marshmallows. There are limits to free speech. No Screaming Fire in a crowded room. No threatening someone's life. Harassment is a no-no. How to commit crime is fine on my list of no-nos as well.
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Post by WildKnight on Nov 15, 2010 15:17:16 GMT -5
No, I'm not saying they're the same. I'm pointing out that there are lines to be drawn. The fact that you draw the line further down the path than I do doesn't mean you need to get all bent out of shape about my opinions.
I assure you, there are people out there who think YOU'RE way out of line to think that the pedophile book is awful. It's all a question of perspective.
To the content of the game that started all of this, what bothers me primarily is the fact that prostitution is exploitative. It's not fun and it's not funny. I'm not opposed to it because I'm moralistic and uptight. I'm opposed to it because I've witnessed firsthand what effects it can have on individuals, families, and communities. The fact that it (the game) takes beloved characters aimed at pre-teens and uses them to make it seem as if prostitution is going to cure racism is, yes, very disturbing to me. If the fact that I wouldn't do anything to keep this stuff alive bothers you, I'm cool with that.
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Post by raynorn on Nov 15, 2010 15:38:55 GMT -5
No, I'm not saying they're the same. I'm pointing out that there are lines to be drawn. The fact that you draw the line further down the path than I do doesn't mean you need to get all bent out of shape about my opinions. I assure you, there are people out there who think YOU'RE way out of line to think that the pedophile book is awful. It's all a question of perspective. To the content of the game that started all of this, what bothers me primarily is the fact that prostitution is exploitative. It's not fun and it's not funny. I'm not opposed to it because I'm moralistic and uptight. I'm opposed to it because I've witnessed firsthand what effects it can have on individuals, families, and communities. The fact that it (the game) takes beloved characters aimed at pre-teens and uses them to make it seem as if prostitution is going to cure racism is, yes, very disturbing to me. If the fact that I wouldn't do anything to keep this stuff alive bothers you, I'm cool with that. It is fact that you would actually loose respect for people who consider trying it is was what bent me out of shape. It hurt my feelings. I think personal experience is key here One of my friends was a prostitute & quite happy in her job. For the record, no I never hired her, but I did ask her TONS of questions. She considered it over all a good experience, and considered herself someone who helped lonely guys (& girls). She considered her job less exploitive then her prior job, selling jewelry. Based on this I have 0 issues with prostitution among consenting adults. If some guy cheats on his wife with a prostitute I do take issue with it but I put the blame 100% on the guy, who would have found a way to cheat with or without paying.
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Post by WildKnight on Nov 15, 2010 15:46:28 GMT -5
So based on one case, as opposed to thousands of years of evidence that prostitution damages women severely and leads to innumerable social problems even (arguably, particularly) when legal... you have no problems with prostitution. Got it. I know a woman who wears a collar and lets her "Master" beat her violently. She is treated like his property and happily refers to herself as a slave. Ergo, I have no problem with slavery.
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Post by malice on Nov 15, 2010 16:08:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't bother going against prostitution. It's the world's oldest profession, and therefore older and much more formidable than me. It's kinda like trying to cure "the common cold".
People, especially men, will always want sex and someone will always be willing to trade it for something. Hell it's a popular stereotype that wives withhold and otherwise use sex as a means to get what they want out of their husbands.
It's too basic, too common, and too variable. As raynorn said, the problem is on the demand side of that market. If women couldn't get anything but sex out of sex then we might be a healthier society. At the same time though, that power they have could be a cause for a lot of positive change (aka why sacrifice leverage when you have it?). My mother pointed out that if women stopped doing it with men in uniform we'd have a lot fewer wars. I'm pretty sure she's right.
I'd almost rather legalize prostitution between consenting adults so we could focus on more vile forms of sexual exploitation, but I think if we legalized the mostly-harmless version, the truly vile stuff would become as common as the previously-illegal stuff.
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