Goth Vs Country

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Has anyone else realized how much these too have in common?

Bad music on both ends, all the time writing or singing about pain or suffering. They are both like very annoying.

[takewithfood]

Hasn't goth been dead for about 15-20 years?

~TWF

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No, they just renamed it emo

[WildKnight]

Actually, I enjoy some of each, and only people who've never actually listened to it think country is about depressing stuff. The vast bulk of country music these days is about enjoying your life, loving your family, etc.

There's a time and a place for music that lets us examine our darkness, and there's a time and a place for music that reminds us that that's not all there is to life.

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Nov 22, 2010 21:18:20 GMT -5 WildKnight said:

There's a time and a place for music that lets us examine our darkness, and there's a time and a place for music that reminds us that that's not all there is to life.

That would be Merle Haggard, and Hank Willaims Sr. Most other country over the years is slow depressing music, and about being broken up with, or some other stuff.

I remember this one time I was at work and when I came in they were playing some god aweful song about cowgirls not crying, and well they played it twice within the same hour!

It's like somewherei n the world people are requesting this trash like as soon as it stops playing! It's not bad enough that these people have finds with their sh*tty music, but they also request the hell out of it.

Then there was the worst song ever...ahcey breaky heart. The only time and place for that is like nowhere, and never.

[WildKnight]

Dude... you just don't know what you're talking about. Your knowledge of country is at least 15 years behind the times. If you're going to bitch about a musical style, at least be aware of something that's current to the genre.

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15 years behind times? They were still playing the same sh*t on the raidio this weekend. I hate radio's I don't control. I don't just flashback to random times when I was a preteen know, sh*t really does come up, and it's like whoa f*ck nothing's changed. Of course, it could have just been a bad radio station, but is there even a good country radio station? I mean really, I've never heard one.

[Shadowbane]

Yeah, pull up some Dierks Bentley, Lady Antebellum, Brad Paisley. I could name more but I don't feel I need to.

I will agree that radio sucks. They play the top 20 songs for the day. Now some stations 20 songs is like twice the number they generally play.

There is a classic rock station that I listen to sometimes. They will play like 12 songs all day. Now the music they are playing is generally late 60's to very early 80's I am sure in those 15 years more then 12 songs were made.

The one I hear most often is Elton John's Saturday Night.

Now there is one station that we have here, or had here that would not play a song more then once per day unless it was a request.

[takewithfood]

I know country has a reputation for being all "tears 'n beers" - there's that classic joke about playing a country song backwards to make it happy, since the guy gets his truck back, gets his girl back, gets his job back, yadda yadda - but I haven't really heard it. In my limited experience with country, as WK says, it tends to be about living and loving life. Even the songs I can recall that were about hardship were really about perseverance and loving life/people/whatever despite hardship. And I agree that even that style is outdated now.

Every genre has it's sad songs, in more or less the same proportion, I'd say. Even emo music was fairly often upbeat (though I don't listen to that if I can avoid it, either.)

~TWF

[Derex.Ceasar]

I don't even know what most country music is about. I usually start to tune out as soon as I hear the actual music (with the instruments). The few songs I have listened to seem to usually be more up-beat, but their definitely are some sad and down songs.

My random question is what genre are Justin Beiber's songs? Because I can't tell, and I don't really want to listen to enough to figure it out.

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Nov 23, 2010 6:16:15 GMT -5 Derex.Ceasar said:

My random question is what genre are Justin Beiber's songs?

I beleive the proper musical term for that Genre is "It Sucks."

[malice]

Goth isn't nearly as prominent as Country. Country is native to entire regions of the United States. Goth is a mutilated once-subculture that never had a clear identity anyway. Country never lacked identity.

I like to joke that Goth was always worthless because it was a bunch of people "rejecting the mainstream" and "being themselves" when in fact they were just another clique. Goth largely faded into emo, and that's when I was a teenager. I have no idea what they're pretending now. Either way I obviously don't have a whole lot of respect for them. Every subculture is guilty of hypocrisy, but Goth was founded on it. At least rednecks own their ignorance.

Country is about preserving your way of life because it's your identity. It's "This is who I am, don't try to mess with it."

Just as Hip-Hop is all about confidence, that's what Country is about.

The thing I notice about Country music that makes it so different from other genres is that while other genres are always trying to do something new, Country is solely interested in doing things the same way. They trade a lot of exploration for a bit more expression and a sound you can always identify. I KNOW a Country song when I hear it, even though it's hard to fully explain why. If I could see the instruments being played and hear the sounds they make I could name it. I'm told the sound I hear in EVERY Country song is a slide guitar.

Justin Bieber is a pop artist, so his genre is pop. "Pop" is obviously a pretty malleable, but that's the same with any artistic genre. There will be people all over the spectrum and many who aren't even on the damn spectrum.

Also, if you think I'm off about Country, I'm writing this while sitting in Mingo County, WV and I've lived in Appalachia for the last 15 years. I am sadly very familiar with the culture. Midwest Country and more Southern Country doesn't vary much, it just affects whether they're making the music videos (Midwest, some South) or listening to the songs on the radio (Appalachia).

If ever you want a redneck to do something, tell him he can't. If you want a redneck woman to do something, tell her man she can't.

[Shadowbane]

There are not slide guitars in every song. Country has changed as well. For male artists its changed over the years. For Female artists it changed with Shania Twain.

[WildKnight]

Not to mention the fact that the definition of "country" music is changing drastically. Anyone who says they "know" a country song when they hear it, doesn't actually listen to country radio, which plays a lot of Kid Rock, Uncle Kracker, etc... and its not because those guys have changed their styles.

The lines between country and rock are beginning to blur, big time. There are still bands that put out strictly "country" music (Rascal Flatts, etc), but even a lot of acts that have been in country for a long time are putting out songs that would be on rock radio if the artist name on the label weren't Toby Keith (or whatever)

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It's true. Old school country sounds more like Blue Grass, but oddly enough I can listen to Blue Grass, or really old country if I'm in the right mood. I can't stand many country artist from the 80's-now though. I mean sure it's a business and they pretty much like to party like any other musician, but the sound is like "oh no
my ears."

I will admit that some of them are pretty cool people though, but as for the music not so much.

Oddly enough I just found out my sister bought me a ticket to a Garth Brooks concert, and that's suppose to be my Christmas this year. It's like either my family doesn't like or doesn't know me. I don't want to seem rude to her, because it was pretty expensive. So, I'm just going to scalp the ticket and tell her I went.