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Post by chrisf on Aug 25, 2003 2:50:43 GMT -5
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Post by psistrike on Aug 25, 2003 12:45:02 GMT -5
Good write-up for Batman but you left some things out.
His Agility is at peak-human and should only be a 3.I would bump up his Acrobatics to a 6 though to compensate for this.His Business Skills should have an Intelligence Bonus as should his General Knowledge,Inventing,Science,and Technology Actions as well.Also I don't know why you gave him both Close Combat and Ninja but the Bonuses for Ninja should be Intelligence Bonus and Weapon Modifier or 2 Weapon Modifiers.Also you forgot to give him a Rogues Gallery Challenges like you did for the Flash.Other then these oversites it's a great write-up.
For Barry Allen version of the Flash it is a good write-up but has some things off,at least from my point of view.First I believe he had a genius intelligence and thus should have a 5 Intelligece.His Strength seem to be at peak human from what he could carry and should probably be at a 3.His Durability always seemed tougher to me and he should probably have a 5 for a superhuman level of toughness and stamina.Heck they gave Quicksilver that level of Durability and Barry Allen always seemed at least as tough as him. His Science, Inventing,and Technology Actions should have an Intelligence Bonus.Also you didn't give a Cost Level for Mastery of Speed or any of its Options although I think you did this because it should be reserved for NPCs.
Good write-up for Joker too except some minor things. His Boost would be better as a Modifier.His Chemisty, General Knowledge,and Inventing Actions should have an Intelligence Bonus and he can't have Inventing without an Technology at an equal or higher Action Number.Thieving should have a Strength or Agility Bonus.Other then those things he is okay.
You need to start remembering to give Actions there appropriate Ability Bonus instead of me having to remind you. ;D
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Post by chrisf on Aug 25, 2003 14:09:26 GMT -5
Yes - youre right on all counts. My excuse was that I was on a feverish writeup frenzy. Oh well... My only point of contention: Batman's Agility a 3? Well I would agree on this normally but the fact that Daredevil and Cap America are rated at 4 and Bats is supposed to be a match in agility terms- I'm using the DC/Marvel amalgam series for this. Enhaced levels could also mean 'Cinematic' levels. I really dont mind giving him a 3 though. As for no point costs for Mastery Of Speed... I'm a lazy sod. Anyone with 'Mastery Of Point Costs' is more than welcome to cost it!  |
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Post by psistrike on Aug 25, 2003 14:17:58 GMT -5
Okay,you're right about this one.The differances between the comic universes would mean that he would be equal in Agility to Captain America and Batman. I just thought that he was more skill in that area.
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Post by chrisf on Aug 25, 2003 14:24:42 GMT -5
Ninja was given for his masterful Ninja stealth techniques he learnt in the orient during his origin and also expertise with martial weapons. Batman doesnt kill but he certainly could use his training to do so. He has proved he can also hold his own against master-level Ninjas like Sensei and Cheshire. A vital part of his arsenal is the fact he can 'vanish from plain sight' (a traditional Ninja skill) and his consumate stealth. Even Superman can't detect him leaving the scene. At a stone total of 14 this seems ok.
Perhaps...
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Post by psistrike on Aug 25, 2003 14:36:43 GMT -5
Okay I get that his Ninja Action represents his skills in agility and stealth.That makes alot of sense for him.And yes,making him that level in Ninja makes sense for him as he is a master in many skills. ;D
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Post by chrisf on Aug 25, 2003 14:45:21 GMT -5
One of the things that struck me about Bats while statting him and pouring through the comics is that he is possibly one of the most 'super-powered' characters without actually having anysuper powers. Seeing his stats doesn't surprise me this guy pulls major weight in any JLA adventure.
According to his origins, he left home and travelled the world using his inheritance and learnt everything from the Masters of each skill - Ninjas, Martial Artists, Thieves, Escapologists (uh oh...another revision), Detectives, with pathological determination.
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Post by therealtony on Aug 26, 2003 2:30:46 GMT -5
You know if Batman has a 7 in acrobatics what would you give Nightwing for that action?
He has been acknowledged as Batman's superior in that area. Even by Bat's himself..
Would you bump Bat's down to 6 so Nightwing would have a 7 or would you make Nightwing an 8?
He is considered the best "non-meta" athlete in the DCU.
So, going by your benchmark table, Nightwing would be
8 Legendary, The single greatest practitioner, legendary talent
I would lean towards giving Nightwing an 8 myself..what do you figure?
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Post by therealtony on Aug 26, 2003 12:43:00 GMT -5
Hey Chris! Am I losing what is left of my marbles or did you change Batman's acrobatics from 7 to 5? I guess that makes things easier for doing a Nightwing write-up. |
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Post by psistrike on Aug 26, 2003 12:48:45 GMT -5
Hey Chris! Am I losing what is left of my marbles or did you change Batman's acrobatics from 7 to 5? I guess that makes things easier for doing a Nightwing write-up. You're losing your marbles. It was originally a 5 when I read it and he hasn't changed that since then. |
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Post by therealtony on Aug 26, 2003 13:01:34 GMT -5
I guess I mixed up Batty's CC with his Acrobatics...It was late, I was tired...and..I am, of course..losing my marbles..  |
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Post by psistrike on Aug 26, 2003 13:45:17 GMT -5
If you read something when it's late and you're tired remember to reread it later when you're rested so you don't get things mixed up like that again. ;D
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