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Post by malice on Feb 8, 2011 20:42:07 GMT -5
That'd be the forcing everyone into a status condition that allows them to be sneak attacked  . The reason you choose Consular is because their powers are harder to save against, and if someone makes their save then you're just a clown with a couple of water pistols. I exaggerate about how bad the damage on the pistols is, but you'll notice the difference between sneak attacking and not sneak attacking. Also I should mention that while that build actually mops up a lot of encounters, it has a very hard time with Malak, since Malak's saves are designed to prevent you from cheesing him to death with Force Lightning and such. I don't remember if Scoundrels can set traps or if that's Scout only, but if you can set traps you might want to cheese him with traps. I never felt bad about doing him dirty because in a turn-based combat system the amount of advantage you can gain from being skilled has usually already happened before the fight starts, so it's not like you're "backing away from a challenge," you're just saving yourself the pain in the ass. I beat him head-to-head with other characters so playing dirty with a scoundrel didn't bother me. |
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 8, 2011 22:25:48 GMT -5
Malak is an easy fight anyway if you have the Force Powers necessary to destroy his Jedi batteries (Destroy Droid or Force Storm, I think)
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Post by Manah on Feb 8, 2011 23:12:05 GMT -5
Holding level ups for later is also very useful if you want to make a basic, mostly Jedi character. The only mandatory level up before leaving the planet at the beginning is the very first one, and you can hold all the rest. Of course, it is difficult making it alive through the Calo Nord fight at only Level 2 (and even thinking about getting to, let alone defeating Bendak Starkiller is plain ridiculous)... but it CAN be done. Therefore you can be, at the end, a Soldier/Scout/Scoundrel 2, Jedi Whatever 18. And with my last Soldier 2 / Jedi Guardian 18, I defeated Malak... and allowed him to heal... then kicked his butt again... then allowed him to heal again.... then kicked his butt again... till he couldn't heal no more. That was BADASS. "Go ahead. Heal. You simply allow me to humiliate you even further. Muhahahahaha." |
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Post by malice on Feb 9, 2011 8:11:34 GMT -5
Malak is an easy fight anyway if you have the Force Powers necessary to destroy his Jedi batteries (Destroy Droid or Force Storm, I think) I believe you can also drain them yourself. However I'm talking about attacking a Jedi Guardian with blasters. I know how to defeat Malak, but when you're literally choosing the sub-optimal way or even the antithetical way it bears mentioning that the fight becomes more difficult. A lot of builds do really awesome throughout the game then have a hard time with Malak, and others are stupid throughout the game but own Malak. I tended to prefer builds that had a hard time with Malak but a wonderful time with everything else because you spend most of your time fighting everything else. The Scoundrel Guardian, for example, is wonderful. I'm convinced it's one of the most entertaining things you can do in that game. However it's not as strong against Malak as a straight tank. In the big fights with a lot of enemies and open area though? It's astoundingly good. You leap across the map to deliver a single blow that can outright slaughter a mini-rancor on the highest difficulty, and then you re-target to someone else across the map so you can do it again. Most of your hits are part of a Force Jump, so it just feels so EPIC. Dual-blaster Jedi is similar. It rocks a lot of heavy encounters early on because it can mow down hordes of enemies, but one suped up Jedi Guardian at the end of the game is gonna give it a hard time. |
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Post by Grimsolace on Feb 9, 2011 8:40:48 GMT -5
Malak can be very easy on all builds. If you are able to use the implant that allows you to ignore critical hits and buy the belt on Keshik that makes you immune to electricity. With those two items, Malak is distressingly easy.
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Post by Manah on Feb 9, 2011 8:55:56 GMT -5
True, true. Compared to Revan, Malak is, was and will always be a wimp and a pushover. It's fun to face him in the first encounter, only to have it end with him running away. It's like he was all "I'm gonna kill Revan now while he hasn't regained all of his power and... OH SH- he's too powerful already! RUN!!" |
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 9, 2011 8:58:44 GMT -5
I particularly enjoy the fact that he insists on talking smack as he's running away.
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Post by malice on Feb 9, 2011 9:22:26 GMT -5
Malak can be very easy on all builds. If you are able to use the implant that allows you to ignore critical hits and buy the belt on Keshik that makes you immune to electricity. With those two items, Malak is distressingly easy. Not sure whether I could afford that belt, I just remembered one of the pistols: Cassus Fett's Heavy Pistol Purchased from a vendor somewhere. I wouldn't have thought of the belt for Malak though. When I was playing KOTOR I didn't even know D&D had 3 Editions yet. It wasn't until later when I first played Eberron (My first 3.x experience) that I was going "Wow, this is just like KOTOR." For the record, I still think that the problem I had was eating my own blaster shots and having less defense against lightsabers, not Force Lightning. It HAS been a long time though, so I could be wrong. As a ranged Consular I know I wasn't silly enough to spend a lot of time in Force Lightning range though, and I DO recall him just using it randomly at the other end of the room attacking nothing. |
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Post by Manah on Feb 9, 2011 12:44:24 GMT -5
I particularly enjoy the fact that he insists on talking smack as he's running away. True also. Malak reminds me of a whiny little jerk who attacks you, get his butt handed to him, then runs away screaming "Hahahaha! You think this hurt, huh? Well, watch your back, 'Cause next time I won't go easy on you!" Yeah right. Why don't you go fetch some of your friends? Maybe THEY'll make me break a sweat. |
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 9, 2011 13:53:28 GMT -5
Malak was clearly inspired by the villains from the 80's cartoons (Cobra Commander, Megatron, etc). "I'll get you next time G.I. Joe!"
At least he admits you're the true master when you whup him at the end though.
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