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Post by WildKnight on Feb 9, 2011 8:57:51 GMT -5
Detroit may be a piece of land, but the attitude that it used to embody is very real. There's a reason that Detroit became a major manufacturing hub, and it's more than just Henry Ford (and while we're at it, Henry Ford could have gone a lot of places. He chose Detroit and Dearborn for a reason).
In the end it doesn't matter, though. The reality here is that you're "infuriated" because this ad dared to imply that Americans might have once been great at something, and that they can be again.
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Post by jayholden on Feb 9, 2011 18:00:52 GMT -5
In the end it doesn't matter, though. The reality here is that you're "infuriated" because this ad dared to imply that Americans might have once been great at something, and that they can be again. Really? I'm not sure why anyone would be angry that America was once a great country. Not only did you just take my argument and somehow conjure up a wildly false statement based on absolutely nothing I have said, but honestly your accusations smack of outright schizophrenia. It seems like at best you're lumping my statements in with nonsensical anti-American sentiment that you've heard someplace else. But what I've expressed is a disgust with a car company that has robbed Americans in one of the most morally bankrupt and classically in-American decisions our government has ever made, then had the gall to turn around and celebrate how the company embodies the classic American zero-to-hero mythos. Excuse me if I'm not on board with the message.
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Post by jayholden on Feb 9, 2011 18:03:44 GMT -5
*un-American, not in-American.
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 9, 2011 18:35:02 GMT -5
But what I've expressed is a disgust with a car company that has robbed Americans in one of the most morally bankrupt and classically in-American decisions our government has ever made, then had the gall to turn around and celebrate how the company embodies the classic American zero-to-hero mythos. Excuse me if I'm not on board with the message. First of all, I thoroughly disagree with you on what the intended message was. I don't see them as trying to link themselves to any "zero-to-hero" mythology (although I agree that is a popular concept to manipulate). I see it as them suggesting that they are capable of greatness. You can disagree, but being offended by it? That's a little over the top. Second of all, I could not agree with you more about the bailout, and it being thoroughly un-American. It was a terrible decision. But you're still missing the point. Chrysler has to pay its creditor (that's us) back. It can only do that if it succeeds, and it can only succeed with advertising. Advertising means telling people you've got a good product. That's what they're trying to do. Again, I can see disagreement... but being "infuriated" by it? Strikes me as way beyond necessary. Again, I pray Chrysler sees nothing but success, not because I think they're just a great bunch of guys and gals, but because their success means more jobs, a bigger tax base, etc.
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