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Post by Dullahan on Oct 2, 2011 22:31:30 GMT -5
Depending on who writes the comics, Batman trumps everyone, but I think that's a given round here (and to be honest, he should. 'Know your enemy' comes from Sun Tzu, and Batman is, perhaps, the ultimate comic book warrior, at least in my book. Everything he does is geared to making war on crime, evil, injustice etc so he'll have a backup plan for everyone. Well, save the occasional surprise, like Bane, but I don't think Bane ever beat him twice...) Sun Tzu did say know your enemy, but he also said know yourself. He says that knowing yourself and your enemy helps your chances in victory. Batman knows his enemies, but I'm sure he knows his own limitations, and how to compensate for them. "Know thy enemy, and know thyself, and know no fear in 1000 battles. Know thyself, but not they enemy, find equal measures victory and defeat. Know thy enemy, but not thyself, and find naught but defeat." Is the full quote, if your curious. He also said, "Winning 1000 battles is not the height of strategy. To win without fighting, that is where true strategy lies." And if anyone knows that on at least an intellectual level, it's Batman.
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Post by roxolid on Oct 5, 2011 9:19:57 GMT -5
Are there any comic book teams that could take on and beat...
The Defenders?
Dr Strange, Silver Surfer, Hulk, Namor
Before they 'diluted' by letting in the likes of Nighthawk, Valkyrie, Gargoyle, Damon Hellstrom etc, they were the hardest team around in my opinion. Were there any incarnations of the Avengers, Justice League, All Star Squadron, JSA, X-Men etc that could come close? Only Namor is the 'weak link' in the original line up, which should say something, as on his day he can give anyone a run for their money. As for the rest of them, who's the most powerful? Hulk? Surfer? Strange? You have all the angles covered with those guys.
For sure, Avengers have Thor, Wonder Man, Hercules, Iron Man and a number of others (Captain Marvel/Monica Rambeau springs to mind as an underrated heavy hitter), but was there a line up that could compare, in sheer power terms, to the Defenders?
The only teams I can think of, off the top of my head, are the likes of the JLU (vast range of characters including most of the DC heavy hitters, but never in the same place at once), Legion of Super Heroes (before the 1st crisis, they were mind blowing in terms of power, but I don't recall too many times when all were together. Their heaviest hitters - Mon El, Ultra Boy, Superboy, Wildfire could really dole it out though) and the All Star Squadron (another vast team, but they were 'Earth 2' or 'Golden Age' types, somewhat lower in power than the Silver Age level characters, if I recall. Hope I got my ages right.)
Any other teams (from any comic book line) that can kick ass on a cosmic scale? Any cosmic powered teams that had a comic book run rather than the odd team up? inquiring minds (well, mind. Mine) want to know!
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Post by Jet on Oct 7, 2011 16:04:31 GMT -5
I just got an idea for the greatest battle ever. Not really a "fight" though, becouse neither is a warrior type. But a confrontation indeed:
The Question VS The Riddler
THE ultimate battle of wits. No Bat-gadgets out of nowhere, no help to either side (mooks are still cool, though), just two guys battling with their wits. If only becouse Question would have harder time then Batman, which is, to say the least, a breath of fresh air. And yes, I did read "Hush".
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Post by kito on Oct 10, 2011 10:43:39 GMT -5
hmm cant think of 1 for the defenders exsept maby Onslaught And his sentinals. Ion and the JL( superman, Batman, Wonderwoman, Superman, Martin man hunter.) And pobibly Dooms Masters of evil Dr.Doom, Zemo, Baron mordo. The wrking cew, Absorbing man. ect.
and probilby the x-men with x-man so he can controll them all. hmm the dark avengers (iron patreout, draken, evil ms marvel, Sentary, Areas, ect.)
I would like to see the dark avengers VS lexes Master of evil team.
Thanoseid (the darkside/thaneous fusion from when dc and marvel becam one) Vs the marvel world and Dr.Doomsday(dr.doom and doomsday) Vs the DC univers.
and i want to still See an REAL fight for the Dark avengers Vs the avengers. it never rilly hapens in a all out war kinda way.
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