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Post by WildKnight on Mar 12, 2012 21:35:15 GMT -5
Anyone found any Fan-Made Datafiles of note/worth online yet? I skimmed my copy of the book last night... and was a little disappointed in the selection that came standard with the books. Looks like my favorites won't be seen until the supplemental adventure/event books publish. I haven't seen ANY, that's why I spent several hours putting some together last week.
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Post by Dhark on Mar 12, 2012 21:43:06 GMT -5
I saw a few random ones in my searching last night, two or three Ghost Riders, but nothing of much interest for me personally :-P
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Post by Jet on Mar 17, 2012 6:20:46 GMT -5
I just got my pdf copy and... I spent way too much time ranting on the other forum to say it again here, so I'll just say this.
I wasnt expecting much, and they got me exactly that. Game mechanics, several characters, most villains even I dont know and character creation is a joke.
And, seriously guys, you make a Marvel Corebook and NOT INCLUDE HULK AND THOR?!
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 17, 2012 7:36:35 GMT -5
I just got my pdf copy and... I spent way too much time ranting on the other forum to say it again here, so I'll just say this. I wasnt expecting much, and they got me exactly that. Game mechanics, several characters, most villains even I dont know and character creation is a joke. And, seriously guys, you make a Marvel Corebook and NOT INCLUDE HULK AND THOR?! ... how many times do they have to say that it is not a core book. The characters in the book are not meant to be a core representation of Marvel; they are meant to be the characters you need to run the mini-event in the book.
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Post by Jet on Mar 18, 2012 13:43:16 GMT -5
It is a corebook. Its first in the line, contains all the most important information (except in piss poor quantity) and, you know, its called "Basic Game" on the cover. If thats not core book, I dont know what is. If there even is one. And Hulk and Thor would both be awesome to use in any scenario that requires superheroes of higher caliber. I mean, they did include Sentry for a reason, right? (yes, I know about the "Unlockable Sentry" in the scenario, which makes me laugh, btw)
I still havent played or GM'ed it (knowing my group, I'll be GM'ing anyway), so I'll reserve my final judgement when it happens. Im just dissapointed and discouraged to get any other book from this line.
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 18, 2012 13:48:07 GMT -5
The reason it's not a Core Book, and they've been insistent on not calling the Basic Game a "Core Book", is to forestall exactly the kind of complaints you're now griping about.
A "Core Book", I would agree, should have Hulk and Thor... but they weren't available at the time of the mini-event included in the book, and the characters included in the book are there specifically because they were/are appropriate.
If you were to buy the Civil War book, you would almost certainly not find a datafile for Galactus, so why would you expect to find a datafile for Hulk or Thor for use with a story they weren't even around for?
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Post by Dullahan on Mar 18, 2012 14:07:28 GMT -5
This is probably mentioned earlier, but I'm lazy.
What event is in this book, anyway?
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 18, 2012 14:19:12 GMT -5
This is probably mentioned earlier, but I'm lazy. What event is in this book, anyway? It's "Breakout" the story that brought about the formation of the New Avengers, which should dovetail nicely with Civil War, which is the first Event Book, for those buying that. After that they're doing Annihilation (which will excite a lot of people, but I couldn't care less personally) and then Age of Apocalypse, which doesn't really excite me but I know my friends will be excited to play through it.
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Post by Dullahan on Mar 18, 2012 14:53:19 GMT -5
Annhilation, I should know what that is, but it doesn't ring any bells.
And Age of Apocalypse, well, better than a lot of things they could pick.
Oh, and Civil War? I could do without that.
Breakout...hey, I could have fun with that. I might want to look into that.
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 18, 2012 15:33:01 GMT -5
I'm cautiously excited for Civil War. It was a very dynamic situation in the comics, and although delivered poorly in parts, I honestly feel it was better than anything else Marvel has done in decades.
Annihilation was some kind of major cosmic event that took Annihilus from "that guy the FF has spanked 20,000 times" to legitimate threat, somehow. It also turned Nova, a fourth string nobody, into Marvel's Green Lantern.
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Post by Dhark on Mar 18, 2012 16:15:52 GMT -5
Mmmmm. AoA. Yesssss. Sucks having to wait so long for it though -.-
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Post by roxolid on Mar 18, 2012 18:01:36 GMT -5
Annihilation was ok in bits. The Nova Corps (of which Nova was one of thousands I think?) was one of the victims and Nova as a result got bumped up in power levels. That said, I can't remember the last time I've seen the character, so I guess he's back down to 'forgettable' status.
I thought Civil War was the best yearly event for ages, have little experience with 'Age of Apocalypse' and unsure about the other events. It's a novel/different way of doing things, but you might end up needing different books to get all the members of a team in one place, which I'm not keen on.
Fear Itself is an event book I won't bother to pick up, if it ever comes along. Marvel don't get it right all the time...
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Post by andyman on Mar 18, 2012 22:00:23 GMT -5
What's all this about Hulk and Thor being requirements for a core game set?
Back in my day (1984) the Marvel Super Heroes Basic Set just came with the Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, Captain America, Wolverine and Captain Marvel. And we liked it!!!
It was great to play the old classic Marvel after walking miles back and forth to school uphill in the snow. It was either that, watch the Super Friends on a TV set with dials because we didn't have no fancy remotes, or play an 8 track multiple choice Superhero quiz game on a plastic 2XL robot. We didn't need Hulk and Thor. Heck we didn't even have color pages for our role playing games! (And we still liked it!)
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Post by cambanks on Mar 18, 2012 23:03:49 GMT -5
Because we do love Hulk and Thor, they're coming in some DLC in the next couple of months, along with some nasty villains we didn't include in Breakout (four people who tried the whole cosmic ray rocket ship method of getting super powers, and four who wreck things for a living thanks to Asgardian magic).
Also, since the Operations Manual (the rules section of the Basic Game) will appear in every Premium Edition Event Book (there are three of those this year), Basic Game is not a core book. It's just the FIRST book with the rules in it.
Cheers, Cam
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Post by roxolid on Mar 19, 2012 3:17:58 GMT -5
What's all this about Hulk and Thor being requirements for a core game set? Back in my day (1984) the Marvel Super Heroes Basic Set just came with the Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, Captain America, Wolverine and Captain Marvel. And we liked it!!! It was great to play the old classic Marvel after walking miles back and forth to school uphill in the snow. It was either that, watch the Super Friends on a TV set with dials because we didn't have no fancy remotes, or play an 8 track multiple choice Superhero quiz game on a plastic 2XL robot. We didn't need Hulk and Thor. Heck we didn't even have color pages for our role playing games! (And we still liked it!) The original MSH game was a revelation to me after Superhero 2044 and its incomprehensible photocopied/pasted 'rules' and V&V where a calculator was mandatory. I don't think I'd tried Champions at that stage (US games supply was still pretty patchy in the UK unless ordered through mail order which took weeks). TSR really did raise the bar - and kept raising it - through the late seventies and 80s, but a number of other companies took up the challenge too (and made gaming books better to look at and play instead of looking like photocopied pamphlets or pages of eyebleeding text blocks) Cam - Whilst you're in here - any plans, or chance of print friendly versions of the PDFs for the upcoming books? I printed the 'not' core book in greyscale to reduce the ink use, which isn't ideal, but will do till the UK gets the books in print.
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