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Post by kito on Sept 26, 2011 22:24:36 GMT -5
 marvel.com/universe/Skrullfrom the picture im guessing there are 3 different types of scrulls iv been gm for a bit now(almost a year now go me) and my players have been more thant hinting they want to move into the skrull invasion the only problem is i got no idea how to do skrulls. im guessing there are 3 different types of skrulls. altho i dont know wut the difference between them is. im gona try and put down a very ruff cad for the skrulls by tomorow but if any 1 already has 1 or knows alot about them plz feel free to post it. |
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Post by Dhark on Sept 26, 2011 22:39:21 GMT -5
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Post by Gryphynx on Sept 27, 2011 2:37:20 GMT -5
Best way is to ignore the fact that they are a Skrull. In the Skrull invasion, each of the sleeper agents was bred to be someone. They didn't get to use Metamorph for powers so much, just a basic Shapechange which was more story-derived than CAD-derived in my opinion.
So, build a normal character and call him a Skrull. When the time comes, he suddenly looks like a Skrull too (and use those 6 White stones he suddenly gets from being non-human looking in appearance, and a hated Enemy of the human race... and maybe a couple more if he just can't accept his new lot in life for Psychological) to add some powers or modifiers. So maybe Spider-Man suddenly gets a Force Blast like Cyclops, or Ms Marvel can use Marvel Girl's Telekinesis...
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Post by kito on Sept 27, 2011 3:59:38 GMT -5
hmm thx been tring to red up on the skrull invasion i mssed that ark, just thought they came by ship and such and atacked lik as a army.
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Post by Gryphynx on Sept 27, 2011 4:23:08 GMT -5
They infiltrated all the super hero teams. Many of the current Avengers, etc, were actually Skrulls. Especially if you were a somewhat powerful, not so often seen/used individual or had a lot of access... I think Jarvis the Butler was even a Skrull, though it's been awhile and wasn't one of my more favorite storylines.  And half the skrulls, refused to believe they actually were skrulls, and fought the skrull invasion with the heroes... |
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Post by Ricochet on Sept 27, 2011 10:59:38 GMT -5
The picture shows only 2 skrulls: 1 skrull warrior and KL-RT before and after transformation into Superskrull.
The best thing you could do is treat all the heroes as if they are and aren't skrulls at the same time. That way, you can always catch the players by surprise. You just decide which one is the skrull at the last moment, kinda like Schrodinger's box.
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Post by kito on Sept 27, 2011 20:02:41 GMT -5
hmm idk about that way seems kinda batle star galctica esk if i just drop the your a skrull bomb on them. Also wut do u mean skrulls where fighting the skrulls? did they not know they where skrulls? they just faught and faught and lik o woopis im fighing my own friends? makse no sence lol imagin if we traind our spys like that. wut is the difference between a skrull kl-rt brfore and after the super skrull program?
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Post by Dominus on Sept 27, 2011 20:27:43 GMT -5
Yeah I never understood that story line. As far as I know the Skrulls could only take on the appearance of the people they pose as and not the powers. So how did they pose as superheroes?
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Post by Dullahan on Sept 27, 2011 21:58:22 GMT -5
hmm idk about that way seems kinda batle star galctica esk if i just drop the your a skrull bomb on them. Also wut do u mean skrulls where fighting the skrulls? did they not know they where skrulls? they just faught and faught and lik o woopis im fighing my own friends? makse no sence lol imagin if we traind our spys like that. wut is the difference between a skrull kl-rt brfore and after the super skrull program? It's called Becoming the Mask. It's where a person continues an act for so long, they actually take on that act as part of their identity. Instead of it BEING an act, it becomes who they are. Being shapeshifters, and spending so long impersonating the people they shifted into, they completely forgot, or supressed, however you want to phrase it, who they really were and what they were their to do. They essentially became the heroes they were supposed to impersonate. So, when the other Skrulls invaded, they fought back, because, as heroes, that's what they do. |
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Post by comicfan on Sept 27, 2011 22:22:39 GMT -5
Couldn't have phrased that any better Dullahan. Revealing a character to be a skrull, isn't really like Battlestar Galactica, where I got the impression the character the cylon was replacing was a cylon the entire show.
You could have a lead up arc for the invasion where the players are captured by the Skrulls, and soon escape. Later on you could have the players learn that the characters they were playing from the time they escaped up to the big reveal were infact Skrull infiltrators, and their real characters are still trapped. Or you can have it happen during the course of the invasion story, and have it revealed sometime later.
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Post by Gryphynx on Sept 28, 2011 0:03:52 GMT -5
It was more than that, they were Sleeper Agents, brainwashed to BELIEVE they were who they were impersonating. It was an intense program that had each of the Skrulls with a duplicate set of powers and truly believing they were their targets. The idea being that with a single code-word, that mental program would reveal itself, and each Skrull would remember who he was, and fight for his race. Unfortunately, for the Skrulls anyhows, this meant 2 complete sets of memories, and quite a few found their Human set much more appealing. A restful world with a few threats every once in awhile, not being treated like a rank-n-file soldier in an army all for the glory of a now-dead empire. Able to make their own decisions.... like the stereotypical Black Widow scenario... the russian spy who comes to love freedoms, democracy, and capitalism after living in a socialistic communist regime.
And a few, simply werent programmed correctly, not having regained their Skrull memories at all, some because they never heard the code word, they just ended up battling what THEY thought were Skrull counterparts to themselves, and others because the code word just didnt work well, making them realize they were skrulls, but not how they came to be.
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Post by kito on Sept 28, 2011 9:15:31 GMT -5
hmm i see souds good but then wut would i do with all the skrull heros after the invasion? and wut did real marvel do? im asuming there is not lik 7 spider man runing around(ignoring the statin island ark) all being spider man, did the heros just take the skrull help till the end then get rid of them when they new who was real? would i do that with my players? and wut about the LOE if the are skrulls shouldent all LOE they get from the time there skrulls till the time there normal again not count, or just egnor that for the sake of fair play?
ide like to tank u all for your help in this matter this has been alot more than helpfull wikki did not do a good job of explaning this ark at all, and i got the inpresion from the few of my plaers that did read it it was not well done. but some how u make it sound interesting altho challenging from a gm point of vew to actaly do the ark.
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Post by PROTOJ on Sept 28, 2011 9:59:29 GMT -5
U have 2 remember that the Skrull race were just another regular race no different than the human race other than in appearance. They were a slightly more war-centric race & they began their super-skrull project 2 rival Earth's superheroes. There were many of these super-skrulls during the invasion as well that weren't sleeper agents. There were some that were just given various power sets but knew they were Skrulls. For example I have 1 comic where there was a Skrull who had all the powers of the sinister six & he came 2 the daily Bugle looking 4 Spider-man. He also had shapeshifting abilities because when he showed up he was disguised as Spidey. Many if not all Skrulls have the ability to shapeshift. Human Torch was very suprised to discover that his pregnant wife/girlfriend (i think they were married but i don't remember) was a Skrull.
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Post by Gryphynx on Sept 28, 2011 10:15:40 GMT -5
As I recall (Like I said, I just kinda browsed through the series), only 1 Skrull remained behind. Captain Marvel (who believed he was a Kree).
Spider-Woman was THE lead Skrull, a Princess as I recall... But they're all gone now except for Captain Marvel as far as I know...
LoEs are earned by Players not Characters, so any LoEs they earned should be re-distributable (can't keep the actual Line if they didn't perform the action), in my opinion.
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Post by PROTOJ on Sept 28, 2011 12:03:58 GMT -5
LoEs are earned by Players not Characters, so any LoEs they earned should be re-distributable (can't keep the actual Line if they didn't perform the action), in my opinion. That's true but u still can't apply lines to a character when they weren't being used even if it's the same game & player. That's not really how it works. I mean at the end of the day it's @ GM discretion so u can do what u feel best. Maybe u can have some NPC's be Skrulls &even work out an agreement with 1or 2 of ur players where they'll play Skrull imposters of themselves & u can run a seperate side issue with them where they're escaping Skrull captivity so they can be on the same pace with everyone else as far as loe's go. |
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And half the skrulls, refused to believe they actually were skrulls, and fought the skrull invasion with the heroes...
