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Post by takewithfood on Mar 5, 2012 12:32:47 GMT -5
Bloody hell. Maybe we should stop talking about people... On a totally unrelated note, isn't it about time we had a Lady Gaga thread? ~TWF
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Post by Black Sam on Mar 10, 2012 0:04:01 GMT -5
Cool. Let's talk about Anakin now.
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Post by Brainstem on Mar 10, 2012 0:28:31 GMT -5
Every time I see him I remember that he got real ugly.
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 10, 2012 0:35:50 GMT -5
Every time I see him I remember that he got real ugly. He was kind of an ugly kid too
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Post by Brainstem on Mar 10, 2012 1:25:46 GMT -5
Yeah, but you can give kids a pass because they're all awkward and stuff.
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Post by roxolid on Mar 10, 2012 4:23:08 GMT -5
Are we allows to mention how his hands are really small in the Darth Vader suit and make you cringe with that whole, rushed, tacked on sequence at the end of the third prequel? I've only seen it once mind, but the whole thing was a fairly awful (as in crap) way to round off the series of films to my mind.
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Post by Ushima911 on Mar 10, 2012 5:20:12 GMT -5
Jake who..?
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Post by roxolid on Mar 10, 2012 6:17:18 GMT -5
And purely as a 'What If...?' scenario: What if... A new star wars film was announced (live action as opposed to animated)? Which era would you like to see, which characters return (or all new?), and if it's a 'reboot' who would play each role? After all, reboots seem to come along more often than not these days as Hollywood ignores fresh ideas and goes for 'bankers'. CGI heavy or old school (model) special effects? 3D or not? What would the storyline involve - war against the empire, old republic, invasion by aliens in another galaxy...? Who would you like to see direct/produce/write the thing? For sure, it's not going to happen (at least until GL is dead) but it'd be nice to dream
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Post by takewithfood on Mar 10, 2012 7:12:19 GMT -5
Poor kid. He was only little, it wasn't his fault. W.C. Fields was right: Never work with children or animals.
Some day, George Lucas is going to die, and control of his franchise will have to pass to someone. Unless he can find someone who really shares his "vision", there's a chance of some remakes.
My hope is that they'll one day remake the prequels, and do it right. It doesn't have to be epic, just not awful. You know how sometimes you read in the paper that they managed to identify some old anonymous human remains, and so they dig them up and give them a proper burial with an actual tomb stone with their name on it, in a family plot next to their relatives and stuff, the way it ought to be? That's all I want for the prequels: A proper, dignified send-off.
But that won't be for a long time. Sure, Lucas has gone from looking a bit like an ewok to looking like he just ate one, but I don't see him dropping dead anytime soon. (Not that I'm hoping for him to die! I didn't hate the prequels anywhere near that much!) So it seems more likely to muse about a standalone film.
We talked earlier about the Star Wars live action TV show that I just don't think is going to get off the ground for various reasons. I think they'd be better off doing it as a movie. It'd be easier to justify the budget that we all know Georgie would want, and it keeps things in familiar territory. As long as they learn their lessons from the prequels (and the subsequent edited footage that only pissed people off) and get a lot of creative minds to work with Lucas - or even against him, they could possibly make something good.
If any new movies or shows come out, I'd really like them to largely steer away from Jedi stuff. The Jedi have been totally ruined for me lately. Their telekinetic powers have gone off the charts, the lightsaber fights are way too flowery, prolonged, and over-choreographed, and blah. I'm just tired of it.
I suppose it would be okay to involve one or even two Jedi, but if that has to be the case, in addition to somehow toning down the force, it'd be super if the Jedi were secondary characters. Han Solo will always be cooler than any other Star Wars character you can think of - with the possible exception of Boba Fett, and he ain't a Jedi neither. You don't need to be a Jedi to be completely badass awesome in the Star Wars universe, and that's something the Prequels seem to have forgotten. I'd love to get that back.
Would type more, but I gotta run!
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 10, 2012 8:48:16 GMT -5
Rick McCallum (several years ago) expressed interest in doing Star Wars movies. At the time I was excited, but since he let Lucas put out the prequels without protesting, I'm less enthusiastic.
As far as eras... I don't want anything with billions of Jedi running around, so the only era that really appeals to me is the one we've already covered. One thing I've come to realize is that I really can boil down my disappointment with most Star Wars products (books, games, etc) to one thing; overuse of Jedi, the Force in general, and lightsabers.
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Post by Brainstem on Mar 10, 2012 11:39:14 GMT -5
I'm okay with overuse of lightsabers, but in the way they were originally intended to be used. I liked the idea that lightsabers weren't some ridiculous Jedi-only weapon, but that they were weapons used by all kinds of warriors. The old concept art with Stormtroopers wielding lightsabers really intrigues me.
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Post by takewithfood on Mar 10, 2012 11:42:36 GMT -5
Stormtroopers with lightsabers doesn't seem like such a great idea considering that their blasters never seem to run out of ammo and their armor doesn't seem to protect them in the slightest. There's a reason why U.S. Marines don't actually use their swords in combat.
It's neat visually, though. And frankly they seem more useful as a tool than as a weapon, and I think they'd be better suited for criminal activities than anything.
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 10, 2012 11:46:45 GMT -5
Making a lightsaber something that anybody and everybody has really destroys the whole "talisman" aspect of them, and quite frankly is pretty silly in a high tech world where you can opt for a hand-held weapon that can shoot dozens of yards without being affected by wind or other environmental factors, and packs a pretty considerable wallop.
I'm quite glad that Lucas overruled Ralph McQuarrie on that one (and several other points, actually). I don't see what's "ridiculous" about the notion that a specialized class of warriors carries a unique weapon. It has happened in actual history, and several explanations exist as to why the things wouldn't be in wide circulation (the most obvious being rarity of the required crystals)
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Post by Brainstem on Mar 10, 2012 15:40:29 GMT -5
Well, I guess my interest in that also ties into my interest in the notion that Jedi weren't anything like the ridiculous ass kickers they became. The way they were presented in Star Wars, it came across as though they were knights with some supernatural abilities (which extended mostly to the Mind Trick, lifting things, and perceiving without sight). The lightsabers, beyond being their traditional weapon, really bore little significance.
That's not to say that I'm opposed to them being unique to the Jedi because, as you've said, it makes perfect sense in context and there are examples of various warriors castes having specific, unique weapons. I just dig the notion of Jedi being less super and making lightsabers common, as they were in the concept art, helps support that idea.
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Post by WildKnight on Mar 11, 2012 6:30:44 GMT -5
Well, I guess my interest in that also ties into my interest in the notion that Jedi weren't anything like the ridiculous ass kickers they became. The way they were presented in Star Wars, it came across as though they were knights with some supernatural abilities (which extended mostly to the Mind Trick, lifting things, and perceiving without sight). The lightsabers, beyond being their traditional weapon, really bore little significance. That's pretty much my preferred take on Jedi as well (and I think a totally legitimate take-away from the OT). My only point of disagreement is that Obi-Wan shows what I consider to be significant reverence for the lightsaber. You could say it's simple sentimentality, and I'd have no proof otherwise, but I like to think it's more institutional than that. A Jedi lightsaber is like a Cavalryman's sabre or a Samurai's katana... not the only weapon they can use, but a weapon only they can use.
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