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Sept 1, 2012 23:51:23 GMT -5
Post by Beacon on Sept 1, 2012 23:51:23 GMT -5
Hannigan is, as far as I'm concerned, a terrible actress who does the same role over and over... "I appear cute and innocent, but secretly I'm a huge pervert! TEEHEE!" So just like half the female characters in geek fiction then? Hannigan gets typecast a lot but I think there’s enough difference between Willow from Buffy, Lily from How I Met Your Mother, and Michelle from American Pie that I think you aren’t giving her acting ability enough credit. She was fine in the American Pie movies until Reunion happened. At that point either the characters became too old for that silly nonsense or I did. Probably both. Denisof plays a minor recurring character in How I Met You Mother. I’m going to assume the work isn’t exactly rolling in if he’s working on his wife’s sitcom. Then there’s the Avengers … though I didn’t know it was him until someone pointed it out. Boreanaz seems to have tried a lot of things (I know he was in some terrible movies) before going back to TV. He’s great on TV. Bones is the only CSI-type show I like. I don’t think Seth Green has been in a good movie since the Italian Job. Luckily he gets by doing a TON of voicework on TV. He’s get his own shows (Titan Maximum is really underrated) and a lot of high-profile shows for others (like Family Guy and Star Wars: Clone Wars). If “wave of untalented actors” means “Tom Lenk” then I agree. Buffy is about a team of worthless flesh lumps that follow around a superhuman killing machine to achieve the goal of killing evil, but only if evil happens to be within a certain narrow grouping of supernatural creatures. Buffy has a huge cast of characters none of whom resemble any of the D&D archetypes in anything but the vaguest sense, and who are defined more by their personal traits than by their skill sets (arguably, Willow eventually becomes more defined by being a witch or whatever she is than by being Willow, but still...) Buffy takes place in a world where the supernatural must be hidden from the common people (for some reason I can't discern). Buffy is MUCH more like a super hero story or a pulp novel than it ever was like D&D. As Heinlein would say "the contrary opinion is nothing but wishful thinking." I agree with your point about Buffy having more in common with comics than D&D but I don’t think you’re giving the supporting cast enough credit. This is a show where the freaking LIBRARIAN is a badass. One of these days, I'm going to punch you out of the blue. Instead of asking why, just think of this moment. Everyone take notes; if Wildknight wants to organize a board member gathering then its probably at trap. Marsters also did an AWESOME job doing the audio-books for Desden Files (every single one of them). He's appeared as cameo's here and there on other shows... but bereft of that accent he's not always the easiest to spot! Marsters was hilarious in Torchwood. Everyone looked terrible in Expendables. I saw her on Burn Notice last year and thought she looked great. It seems like Amber Benson is doing a lot more writing than acting these days. I haven’t seen Emma Caulfield since Buffy ended.
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Sept 2, 2012 0:05:00 GMT -5
Post by Brainstem on Sept 2, 2012 0:05:00 GMT -5
Sorry for taking this so unintentionally off track... if you want to talk the merits of the various Buffyverse actors, move over to my Angel thread so this one can just be about the new SHIELD show?
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Sept 2, 2012 1:13:46 GMT -5
Post by Beacon on Sept 2, 2012 1:13:46 GMT -5
We did get a little off track. Still – given the director’s tendency to pull from a small pool of actors – there’s a very good chance we’ll see familiar faces from Buffy, Angel, Firefly, and Dollhouse pop up in SHIELD.
I’m still hoping they cast Nathan Fillion as Hank Pym (either here or in Avengers 2) but it’s unlikely he’ll have time for another TV show given the success of Castle.
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Sept 2, 2012 10:51:14 GMT -5
Post by Silentking Alpha on Sept 2, 2012 10:51:14 GMT -5
Maybe we will even see the third Ant-Man? At the very least in his civvie identity? I swear I read somewhere that OLW claiming that guy playing Galaga in the Avengers movie was Eric O'Grady. Probably in the Avengers thread, although she might have said it in Feature Presentation.
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Sept 2, 2012 10:58:13 GMT -5
Post by Brainstem on Sept 2, 2012 10:58:13 GMT -5
I think there's talk of an Ant Man movie, no? If that's the case, I doubt he'd also show up in the show. TV would be a good way to get characters on screen that won't make it to the cinema.
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Sept 2, 2012 11:04:23 GMT -5
Post by Silentking Alpha on Sept 2, 2012 11:04:23 GMT -5
But would it be possibly to have the perverted version? Eric was the one to abuse his powers so he could spy on the female members of the Avengers taking a shower, right?
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Sept 2, 2012 16:07:42 GMT -5
Post by Beacon on Sept 2, 2012 16:07:42 GMT -5
He abused his powers in other non-perverted ways too. Actually he’d be pretty fun to have around if they played him as a dirty cop (or secret agent or super hero or whatever) who occasionally does the right thing. It's really rather have Pym though.
Still, the whole shrinking power set seems to lend itself to perversion. I remember some controversy over a Geoff Johns Avengers story a while back where Pym goes “spelunking” and I know of at least one occasion where the Atom has ridden in Wonder Woman’s cleavage.
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Sept 12, 2012 16:21:40 GMT -5
Post by Black Sam on Sept 12, 2012 16:21:40 GMT -5
Whedon did an interview with the NYTimes about SHIELD: “It's trucking right along. I’m writing it with Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen, my brother and sister-in-law who worked on “Dollhouse” with me. And we’re planning to shoot it just as soon as we can get it up and running. It’s an ensemble show, so we’ve gotta find the right cast. We found a way to structure it so that what we’re dealing with are agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. who are the humans in a superhero world and how they deal with that and how it makes them vulnerable.
“It's new characters. It needs to be its own thing. It needs to be adjacent [to the MCU] but you don't want to do a show where you're constantly going, 'Iron Man just left, but he was totally here a minute ago.' You want them to do their own thing. Well, what does S.H.I.E.L.D. have that the other superheroes don't? And that, to me, is that they're not superheroes. But they live in that universe. Even though they're a big organization, that [lack of powers] makes them underdogs, and that's interesting to me.”
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Sept 12, 2012 16:25:18 GMT -5
Post by WildKnight on Sept 12, 2012 16:25:18 GMT -5
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Sept 12, 2012 16:54:37 GMT -5
Post by Beacon on Sept 12, 2012 16:54:37 GMT -5
I’m really not sure what to make of Joss anymore.
On the one hand he’s responsible for Firefly and the first few seasons of Buffy. On the other hand he’s responsible for Dollhouse and the last couple seasons of Buffy.
He doesn’t really have a great track record with the whole “government agency” thing either. The Initiative (the Buffy guys, not the Marvel guys) were all useless morons. The Alliance guys chasing the Serenity crew were mostly idiots (MOSTLY). I loved the Avengers movie but SHIELD was pretty much useless there too.
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Sept 12, 2012 19:07:28 GMT -5
Post by takewithfood on Sept 12, 2012 19:07:28 GMT -5
It was an Avengers movie, not a SHIELD movie. You didn't actually expect SHIELD to save the day, did you?
~TWF
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Sept 12, 2012 21:53:48 GMT -5
Post by Silentking Alpha on Sept 12, 2012 21:53:48 GMT -5
At least Fury was more on top of things than others. He was the first to realize that there was something wrong with Loki being on the ship. (Didn't figure out that it was indeed part of his plans to be on the helicarrier. But he was the only person to point how Loki seems to be the only one to be on there!) He told his bosses straight up that their plan to detonate a major city was idiotic and that his team was doing fine! And he took it on himself to stop a jet from escaping with a powerful explosive. Too bad he didn't have two rocket launchers...
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Sept 12, 2012 22:37:50 GMT -5
Post by Black Sam on Sept 12, 2012 22:37:50 GMT -5
Yes Joss... SHIELD, the continual underdog. Your insight astounds... I think it helps to remember that he was talking to a Times reporter who'd probably never heard of him before he became a thing, or SHIELD, or the Avengers...
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Sept 12, 2012 22:51:45 GMT -5
Post by WildKnight on Sept 12, 2012 22:51:45 GMT -5
Yes Joss... SHIELD, the continual underdog. Your insight astounds... I think it helps to remember that he was talking to a Times reporter who'd probably never heard of him before he became a thing, or SHIELD, or the Avengers... ... then he probably shouldn't have misinformed the reporter.
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Sept 12, 2012 23:07:27 GMT -5
Post by Beacon on Sept 12, 2012 23:07:27 GMT -5
It was an Avengers movie, not a SHIELD movie. You didn't actually expect SHIELD to save the day, did you? ~TWF No, but I didn’t expect people like Fury to be useless either. The low level guys were fodder for Loki (either as part of his brainwashed army or as victims of the army) and the high council tried to nuke NYC. Widow was the only SHIELD agent that was remotely useful. (Good Hawkeye was okay but nowhere near as impressive as Evil Hawkeye)
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