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Post by takewithfood on Feb 26, 2016 10:09:42 GMT -5
Considering it's fourth in line to debut after Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and Luke Cage (which hasn't even aired yet), I guess it's no surprise that we haven't heard much about Netflix's "Marvel's Iron Fist". However, they did just announce today that they have cast actor Finn Jones to play Danny Rand. Jones is best known for playing Loras Tyrell, a secondary character on Game of Thrones. I think he looks the part, and he's been passable on Game of Thrones (though he hasn't had amazing material to work with). Perhaps notably, at only 27 he's a bit younger than his fellow lead actors Charlie Cox (33), Krysten Ritter (34), and Mike Colter (39), but that probably suits the character. What I'm a little less optimistic about is Scott Buck as showrunner. He's best known for his run at the helm of Dexter, during which the show's reviews and ratings tanked. But so far Netflix/Marvel seems to know what they're doing, so I'm willing to give him a shot. That's basically all we know now; I'm guessing they're still working on the script, and won't begin filming until the end of the year, with a release planned for some point in 2017. ~TWF
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Post by Gris on Feb 26, 2016 14:41:50 GMT -5
Curious choice, will see how it works and what kind of Danny Rand have they planned. Scott Buck also had a hand on some good Six Feet Under episodes, so it could go either way.
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Post by honestiago on Mar 11, 2016 19:51:03 GMT -5
Argh. Worried about saturation now, and corresponding reduction in quality. We'll see.
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Post by takewithfood on Oct 8, 2016 21:33:28 GMT -5
New short trailer out, courtesy of NY Comic-Con:
~TWF
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Post by Gris on Oct 9, 2016 5:09:37 GMT -5
The beard and the hairdo is bothering me way more than it usually does that kind of change (usually 0), but I'm sure it'll grow on me with time. The rest is more or less expected and par for the course, it looks fine but it shows no real plot so we'll have to wait.
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Post by takewithfood on Oct 9, 2016 9:02:12 GMT -5
Yeah, plot is up in the air, as it often is with these trailers. I'm happy to see that his powers have a visual element, and aren't just "I'm wicked good at kung fu and I can sit in Lotus Position."
I'm still a bit concerned with the casting, though. Neither lead actor (Finn Jones and Jessica Henwick) impressed me in Game of Thrones, though neither had that much screen time to work with, I suppose. These shows have mostly succeeded or failed on the strengths of their villains, so hopefully they're all up to the task. I already like Madam Gao well enough, and I hear Carrie-Ann Moss is returning at least a little, and she was perfect in Jessica Jones.
Somewhat related, the team also revealed some big news about the upcoming Defenders series:
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 9, 2016 12:48:36 GMT -5
Blech.
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Post by takewithfood on Oct 9, 2016 14:27:40 GMT -5
Is that a "Blech" directed at the trailer, or the reveal, or both?
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 9, 2016 15:30:17 GMT -5
Is that a "Blech" directed at the trailer, or the reveal, or both? ~TWF The trailer was just kind of there, but everything about this project gives me a sinking feeling. IF is, by far, the most important character in the "Defenders" lineup to me, and its pretty obvious there is no passion for this project whatsoever. They cast the actor by going "you're young, sorta blonde, and have done stuff people who might watch Netflix have heard of. You're in!" Ignoring the fact that Danny Rand is not a soft, effete, flowery little rich boy. His wealth is tertiary to his persona. He's actually a beast (if a relatively lithe one) that grew up in a mystical equivalent of a Kung Fu Monastery and was hardened by training and the elements alike. This kid they've got playing him portrays none of that, and slapping a beard on him does nothing to cover up how soft he looks. On top of that, they've made it pretty clear that they're sticking to the "no magic ever" thing with Dr. Strange, so I have no idea how they're even going to explain IF's powers, unless somehow they just sidestep it entirely by saying "sure but killing a dragon and taking its heart so that you can harness your chi enough to punch through several inches of titanium isn't magic..." Basically I feel like they put IF in there as filler, nobody really cares about the character or the project, and I'd rather they'd just left it alone rather than taking on this passionless project.
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Post by takewithfood on Oct 9, 2016 16:31:57 GMT -5
I agree that the trailer was blah. Compare it to the equivalent Daredevil trailer (roughly same duration, both released several months before the actual show). The DD trailer is so much better; it's exciting, tells you something about the hero and the world he lives in, gives you a better sense of the villain(s) and the differences between them, etc. And even that trailer had me wondering if they'd really pull all this off. My fear is that someone at Marvel and/or Netflix thought "OMG, I have such a great idea for a Daredevil Netflix show. I bet we could pull it off." And they did. And somewhere during production, when it was starting to look like the product might actually be good, someone mused out loud "You know, if this is a hit, I bet we could pull off Jessica Jones in the same unvierse. I have some great ideas for that, too." And then they realised, "Hey, if we're doing DD and JJ, why not do a whole Defenders series?" And basically my fear is that Luke Cage and Iron Fist were made with the "Hey, why not?" mentality, rather than "OMG, I have such a great idea.." However, I think Marvel is finally opening the "magic" box with Dr. Strange. The director, Scott Derrickson, specifically said: I mean, directors say stupid stuff to assuage fans all the time, but given what we've seen in the Dr. Strange trailers, I'm willing to believe him. We've also seen some pretty mystical stuff in Daredevil (especially season 2) already, and at least one character involved in said mystical stuff - Madam Gao - is making an appearance in IF. Danny's hand clearly glows in the trailer; maybe that's a dream sequence or something, but I suspect that, while they're probably going to use it sparingly compared to the comics, I think that's what his powers will actually look like. It really is the writing and acting that concern me. I had the same concerns about Daredevil, but pretty much everyone held up, and I was pleasantly surprised by the depth of the cast, with strong performances from secondary characters. I wasn't remotely concerned about D'Onofrio, but even he exceeded my expectations. Anyway, rambling aside, I'm cautiously optimistic. Or optimistically cautious, perhaps? I guess I have a "Blech" on the tip of my tongue, too, but I'm trying real hard to hold it in for a few months. ~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 9, 2016 16:42:25 GMT -5
I agree that the trailer was blah. Compare it to the equivalent Daredevil trailer (roughly same duration, both released several months before the actual show). The DD trailer is so much better; it's exciting, tells you something about the hero and the world he lives in, gives you a better sense of the villain(s) and the differences between them, etc. And even that trailer had me wondering if they'd really pull all this off. My fear is that someone at Marvel and/or Netflix thought "OMG, I have such a great idea for a Daredevil Netflix show. I bet we could pull it off." And they did. And somewhere during production, when it was starting to look like the product might actually be good, someone mused out loud "You know, if this is a hit, I bet we could pull off Jessica Jones in the same unvierse. I have some great ideas for that, too." And then they realised, "Hey, if we're doing DD and JJ, why not do a whole Defenders series?" And basically my fear is that Luke Cage and Iron Fist were made with the "Hey, why not?" mentality, rather than "OMG, I have such a great idea.." However, I think Marvel is finally opening the "magic" box with Dr. Strange. The director, Scott Derrickson, specifically said: I mean, directors say stupid stuff to assuage fans all the time, but given what we've seen in the Dr. Strange trailers, I'm willing to believe him. We've also seen some pretty mystical stuff in Daredevil (especially season 2) already, and at least one character involved in said mystical stuff - Madam Gao - is making an appearance in IF. Danny's hand clearly glows in the trailer; maybe that's a dream sequence or something, but I suspect that, while they're probably going to use it sparingly compared to the comics, I think that's what his powers will actually look like. It really is the writing and acting that concern me. I had the same concerns about Daredevil, but pretty much everyone held up, and I was pleasantly surprised by the depth of the cast, with strong performances from secondary characters. I wasn't remotely concerned about D'Onofrio, but even he exceeded my expectations. Anyway, rambling aside, I'm cautiously optimistic. Or optimistically cautious, perhaps? I guess I have a "Blech" on the tip of my tongue, too, but I'm trying real hard to hold it in for a few months. ~TWF If they let it be magic then great. I'd love to be wrong. The fact that neither the word "Sorcerer" nor the word "magic" appears anywhere in any of the promotional material really bothers me. The fact that Dr. Strange's primary "power" is generally described primarily as summoning other-worldly supernatural entities to do his bidding and the trailer goes on at length about alternate realities and changing probabilities really bothers me. The fact that they're continuing to sidestep it on Agents of SHIELD in spite of having Ghost Rider this season really bothers me. Clark Gregg also outright called it "magic"... but until I see some of that appear in-universe, its just words to me. Lots of the internet talking heads (yes, I know, it makes no sense to trust them more than the director of the film himself...) have been talking about how the Eye of Agamotto is one of the Infinity Stones (which seems almost certainly true), and how his powers are just manipulations of that energy, etc. I'm not nearly as big of a Dr. Strange fan as I am an IF fan, but still... its sort of part of the same package.
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Post by takewithfood on Oct 9, 2016 17:13:00 GMT -5
Here's a short article about the director's take, including a clip of the interview that features the quote I posted. Make of it what you will, I guess. Sounds promising to me. ~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 9, 2016 17:33:19 GMT -5
Here's a short article about the director's take, including a clip of the interview that features the quote I posted. Make of it what you will, I guess. Sounds promising to me. ~TWF That is very reassuring, good share, thanks. I'm really amused by this choice of words however... "No longer bound by things like science and logic..." Is that what you think the Marvel movies have been, Mister Writer? 8)
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Post by takewithfood on Oct 10, 2016 18:51:02 GMT -5
Some more news: In what can only be described as baffling and unexpected twist, it was revealed today that Rosario Dawson has been cast as Claire Temple in the upcoming Iron Fist series. ~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 10, 2016 19:04:36 GMT -5
Some more news: In what can only be described as baffling and unexpected twist, it was revealed today that Rosario Dawson has been cast as Claire Temple in the upcoming Iron Fist series. ~TWF ... does it count as being cast if you've already had the role for 3 consecutive seasons of other shows?
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