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Post by GPMC on Nov 25, 2017 19:07:36 GMT -5
Molly is just too 'old'? She's supposed to be the youngest of the runaways in the original comic. At the very least they could have gone with a younger/shorter actor? Dunno. I guess time to watch this and see if it was any good. LOL. She's supposed to be the youngest in the series too, episode 3 ish flashback some.. but doesn't look like the youngest. Yeah well, I am quite happy and positively surprised that the actors they took at least ARE really "young teenager's. Like that "white washing" happens all too often (though for understandable reasons sadly) "age washing" is all too prominent in "the industry". Here they mostly did a fine job in that regards (no sarcasm).
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Post by Brainstem on Nov 25, 2017 22:32:09 GMT -5
The girl that plays Molly is the only one that's actually age-appropriate at 14 years old. The next-closest is Gert's actress at 19 and the others are in their 20s.
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Post by takewithfood on Nov 26, 2017 10:09:19 GMT -5
I think more to the point the comics portray Molly as not only a lot smaller physically, but also as someone who acts younger/less mature than she really is. Not only is her (sometimes feigned) ignorance or naivete a source of a lot of comedy, but by being significantly younger than the Runaways she forces them to parent, and often unintentionally patronize and condescend to her, mirroring the way their parents treat them.
I think getting Molly right is one of the keys to making an adaptation work, and I agree that something feels a little off, at least in the first episode. They've changed almost everything about her, and I don't like the way they changed the reveal of her powers, which is one of the most memorable moments of the comic to me.
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Post by Gris on Nov 27, 2017 5:36:12 GMT -5
Watched the first one, not bad. I mean, I can understand the changes done so far, and since they have to do their own thing (mimicking the comic step by step wouldn't work) I'm fine with it for now.
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Post by vjcsmoke on Nov 28, 2017 2:00:50 GMT -5
Yup, the TV Runaways version of Molly is off. She doesn't have that innocent, cute, naive feel. She doesn't look cute at all actually. Gert is supposed to be uncute so she fits, but Molly is supposed to be the cute strong one! And yeah, they could have made the reveal of Molly's super strength a much more dramatic moment. Molly Hayes - Comic version Molly Hayes - TV version That being said, the rest of the series and the casting seems pretty good though. Alex, Nico, and Karolina appear to be pretty spot on and that certainly helps since they play pretty central roles in the story so far. Looking forward to the next episode. I wouldn't mind watching 3 per week but I'm guessing that was just a first time thing?
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Post by takewithfood on Nov 28, 2017 11:36:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I actually like the other kids too. I feel like the actor playing Alex is struggling a little, and I wonder if he feels pressure because his role is so complex. But I especially like Nico, I like Chase and Karolina, and though I'm wary of the changes they made to Gert, I like her so far.
(Can I also add that I didn't think it was pronounced Karo-LEE-na. I thought it was Karo-LIE-na, like the state. Anyone else?)
I like the parents, too, and I think fleshing them out with more personality and drama is a wise choice in a miniseries format. The Yorkes are a little over the top, but they make the Pride feel eclectic, which I like. The Wilders are just perfect, and I love Tina Minoru. The hint at Janet Stein's tryst (with I'm guessing Robert Minoru) is also welcome. The decision to only mention Victor Stein's physical abuse of Chase is disappointing, but maybe understandable if ratings/censors were an issue?
However I'm not jazzed that Frank Dean isn't a member of PRIDE. The kids should be the only outsiders, or the whole effect of the plot is ruined. It's Runaways, not "Runaways and One Estranged Husband". I really think they went too far in trying to put their own twist on the story. Anyway, we'll see how it pans out.
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Post by vjcsmoke on Nov 28, 2017 13:57:27 GMT -5
Yes, I'm not sure what they are trying to do with Frank Dean. I get that they want us to feel that his wife just totally took advantage of his fame, rode him to the top to build her church, and then just kind of left him out of the action. But now what? Is he going to be used as a plot device to ruin the PRIDE's secretive activities because he insists on finding out even when his wife won't tell him?
With names, it can go either way, so I didn't really pay attention. It's like asking is Tidus pronounced Tie-dus or Tee-dus. Whatevs! I keep thinking - that hair is a mess and they tried too hard and it's not working whenever I see Molly's hair but that's minor. I haven't read the comics in a while, but hopefully we get to see the part where they 'run away' soon and all the fallout from that!
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Post by Brainstem on Dec 7, 2017 8:23:15 GMT -5
The vibe I got from Frank Dean was that he may have been a member of PRIDE at one point, but somehow was booted and had his memory of it all wiped out. They said something in an earlier episode that suggested they could tamper with memories, so I figure they did that so the church could keep its stature but they wouldn't have him stumbling around as a loose end.
I don't mind the changes from the comics at all, so far (although I've only read volume 1). I think it all makes sense given the show they're putting out there. Nothing about it feels any less Runaways-y, but it manages to expand the world so they can tease the series out longer and explore more stories.
I also disagree about Molly. I think she exactly hits the innocent, cute, naivety that she needs to be the group's ray of sunshine. If anything, I'm disappointed with Old Lace. That poor dinosaur looks like garbage.
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Post by Gris on Jan 15, 2018 4:58:35 GMT -5
I'm on episode 8, and I'm finding it excessively meandering with the plot rocking back and forth having trouble to go anywhere. I like that they are doing their own thing and that the parents are getting screentime, it makes it feel like a really separate thing from the comic, so I can enjoy it for what it is (even if wonky) and not what it could be. And yeah, cheap Old Lace is really something odd.
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Post by Gris on Jan 30, 2018 10:56:19 GMT -5
In the end it was just meh. I don't think I'll watch a second season if it happens.
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Post by Savant on Jan 30, 2018 11:55:19 GMT -5
I finally got around to watch the first season of this show and, while enjoyable at certain points, I feel that it lacks cohesion.
In other words, my stance on it is that it's not bad...but it could be better. Let's hope the next episodes can turn things around for the better.
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