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Post by takewithfood on Dec 9, 2016 2:51:37 GMT -5
Since the first trailer is out, I figured it's about time this upcoming super hero flick gets its own thread. Here it is!
~TWF
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Post by Gris on Dec 9, 2016 5:28:31 GMT -5
It looks good, even if it focuses too much on the "hey, we're part of the MU now" but it's a bit weird since it seems to be a Miles Morales movie with Peter Parker instead.
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Post by Reader on Dec 9, 2016 13:19:04 GMT -5
It looks good, even if it focuses too much on the "hey, we're part of the MU now" but it's a bit weird since it seems to be a Miles Morales movie with Peter Parker instead. Ikr! I don't think it's going to be bad, but it felt weird seeing Parker in miles place
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Post by Gris on Dec 10, 2016 5:39:34 GMT -5
The international trailer has less school and more bad guys, with the two of them mashed together it seems that it could be a well balanced movie.
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Post by takewithfood on Jul 3, 2017 21:38:03 GMT -5
Early reviews seem pretty strong; currently sitting at 93% at RT with 85 reviews counted. I'm guessing it will dip just below 90% by the time they're all in, but that's still very strong for yet another debut in the MCU. I always worry that genre fatigue is starting to set in, but Marvel keeps finding ways to keep it fresh - this time by giving us a very relatable, human character in a more convincingly teenage Peter Parker. Can't wait to see it.
~TWF
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Post by Gris on Jul 4, 2017 3:30:12 GMT -5
On one hand it looks very good, capturing a lot of the more recent Spider-Man feel without abandoning the roots, on another hand it seems to have the sameish structure of every Spider-Man movie ever, so it feels a bit weird. I'm optimistic with this one though, RT reviews sometimes backfire hard for me, but normally are at least a decent way to parse if a movie is at least decent.
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Post by takewithfood on Jul 11, 2017 16:13:14 GMT -5
So I just saw the movie. It's really pretty good. Hard to compare to the early Sam Raimi films, as they're very different animals, but personally I like Homecoming a lot more.
Marvel is repeating its success in blending the super hero genre with a variety of other genres, and this time they successfully manage to combine a super hero flick with a high-school coming-of-age story. They also gave us one of the more satisfying villains so far (not a very high bar for Marvel, to be fair) and they avoid a few other pitfalls, too. It's really nice to see these Marvel films slowly mature and evolve, constantly staying one step ahead of genre fatigue.
I'd say it's not quite as big and awesome as Civil War, but it's above most, if not all of the other origin story films.
Also, there are two stingers: one mid-credit scene, and one post-credit scene. Be sure to stay for the last one.
Go see it.
~TWF
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Post by Gris on Jul 12, 2017 3:34:33 GMT -5
Interesting, I'll have to yet wait a couple of weeks to see it around here.
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Post by RidiculousNinja on Jul 20, 2017 13:00:48 GMT -5
Iron man is still my favorite orgin story but Spider-Man was worth every second. It was definitely confusing for my family who did understand that there's different story lines
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Post by Gris on Jul 30, 2017 4:31:25 GMT -5
Spider-Man finally came to Spain and I went to watch it on Friday as soon as I could. It surprised me on how enjoyable it is and how much movie was there despite the trailer giving away too much. I loved it so much that it rivals with my favorite Spider-Man movie (the second one) although as TWF said they are really different from one another. This one has a lot of details I love from the Spider-Man stories I like most, old and new, and can sustain itself as its own thing. The dose of shared MCU it's enough to make it belong (and kickstart the plot) but it doesn't become the central point of the movie not overshadows Peter's story. Lovely one.
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Post by takewithfood on Jul 30, 2017 9:37:45 GMT -5
It's true about a doze of the MCU connection helping the movie. I actually like Karen (not only because she is voiced by Jennifer Connelly, who is married to Neil Bettay, voice of Jarvis-turned-Vision), since she gives Peter someone to talk to. One of the minor points that the previous Spiderman films lacked was the constant monologuing you get in a Spiderman comic. Somehow, converting thought bubbles to self-talk doesn't really work on screen; it comes across as forced and awkward. But giving Peter an AI to talk to works surprisingly well. She isn't a real human, so you still get the feeling that he's more or less talking to himself, or speaking rhetorically (should I tell her who I am? Should I ask her out?) but something about it just works for me.
Glad you enjoyed it, too. Any theories or predictions about what we'll see in the next movie? I guess it depends a lot on what happens in Infinity War pt 1, but it's still fun to imagine.
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Post by Gris on Jul 31, 2017 3:58:14 GMT -5
I don't know what's coming, as it could vary wildly depending on the long term plans and the nature of the agreement with Sony. It also depends of what happens with that Tom Hardy as Venom movie, something that got me baffled. I like how they "MCUed" Spider-Man, with the Vulture being a literal scavenger and how the character slowly slips into the wrong side out of greed. It's refreshing to not have a madman as an antagonist, honestly. I'd love more of the same vibe in coming movies, with villains that can be a bit believable, relatable even. I loved the portrayal of the city and the school with the smaller characters in there, so as long as they can pull that off and don't try something too crazy I'm fine.
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Post by takewithfood on Jul 31, 2017 13:01:01 GMT -5
Yes, I absolutely agree. I also loved that the Vulture was a literal scavenger, and I'd also like to see more down-to-earth villains. I've always taken the view that young Spiderman is powerful enough to be a full Avenger, but because he's a kid he tends to operate at a street level, more on the level of a Punisher or a Daredevil.
The world wasn't in danger, there was no giant blue beam of light shooting up into the sky, or a giant cloud that was going to kill everyone or turn them into lizards. Some stuff was getting stolen and a few people were getting hurt. That's enough for Spidey to do something about it, and I love that.
I'm still trying to live in a fantasy world where the Venom and Han Solo films aren't actually going to happen. They both sound like complete garbage. I've never really liked venom as a character. I love him as a plot device in Spidey's story (Spectacular Spider Man did a pretty good job of it; so did the 90s cartoon) but his own movie? What? Why tho? Ugh. I worry that these crappy little side-projects are going to crystalize the super hero genre fatigue, and that will be the beginning of the end.
Anyway, I kinda hope they work towards a Sinister Six film for Spiderman. One common thread in all these Marvel movies is the formula of multiple heroes vs one big bad villain at a time. I'd love to see Spidey, a lone hero, be tested by multiple villains. And not the way they did it in Spider Man 3, where there were multiple plot lines; I want one plot line, but where the villain is actually a group of people. Specifically people that Spidey knows he can best individually, but maybe not when they work together. Heroes don't have a monopoly on the benefits of teamwork.
Along the way, I think the one villain I really want to see on the big screen is Mysterio. It's hard to articulate why, but I just think it would work. I hear a lot of support for crossing Vincent D'onofrio's Kingpin over into this new Spideyverse, but I can't even begin to imagine the legal headaches there. And I'm not sure that this Kingpin's incredibly dark tone would work with this Spidey's spunky, kid-friendly one. Or maybe that's exactly why it would work. I don't know. I admit, I do kind of dig the contrast of how this Peter is a child who wants to grow up, while this Kingpin is a grownup who is essentially a giant misbehaving child.
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Post by Gris on Aug 1, 2017 4:19:22 GMT -5
A Spider-Man movie with Kingpin as someone who is behind two or maybe three Spider-Man villains could be interesting. Six can be too much to track in a movie (specially if you keep the director who tends to make the most confusing scenes in an attempt for the public to share Peter's state of mind) and that way you could pick a few goons and have a mastermind with powerful acting behind.
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Post by takewithfood on Aug 1, 2017 15:48:34 GMT -5
Spectacular Spider Man somehow managed to pull off a Sinister Six episode in the middle of their Venom arc, and it was fantastic. I'm confident they can do it in a movie if they try, but they would probably have to push aside all the other subplots (MJ, Aunt May, Avengers tie-ins), and now that I say that I severely doubt they would. Alas.
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