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Post by takewithfood on Dec 2, 2010 15:41:01 GMT -5
I don't think that this discovery actually changes a whole lot on it's own, but it's a definitive step towards redefining our definitions of what is and isn't possible for life. Simply knowing for certain that we can take steps in that direction at all validates questions about what else is possible. That, in turn, could help us redefine which areas of the universe are habitable. ~TWF And of course there's a possibility we can turn this into another one of those refining algae/bacteria, using it to refine arsenic into another substance. Maybe. Of course if they don't do it naturally we'd have to engineer it into them... and that could be difficult given their very different genetic code. One step closer to engineering a bacteria that eats poo and poos pizza. ~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Dec 2, 2010 17:55:22 GMT -5
... or developing something that will finally kill us all off.
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Post by takewithfood on Dec 2, 2010 17:58:58 GMT -5
Worth it for the chance at toilets that make free pizza.
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Post by WildKnight on Dec 2, 2010 18:32:12 GMT -5
I don't think you've fully thought out this toilet pizza plan.
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Post by Night Hawk on Dec 2, 2010 18:58:10 GMT -5
Back to the life out in the universe thing.. It's also very likely that Alien's don't know of us and are wondering if there's life out there or perhaps those Aliens out there are in the same directives that Starfleet is in Star Trek about the Underdeveloped Planet Pact, maybe we're just waiting for 2063 to come for Warp technology to be achieved.. If that's the case hopefully it's the Vulcan's that contact us and not Klingons..
In a more realistic sense they have recieved movie broadcasts and tv shows from our channels satellites, think about it? If you were E.T. would you welcome yourself on Earth after all those movies about aliens coming to Earth and we kicking their butts or disecting them like frogs.
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Post by takewithfood on Dec 2, 2010 19:47:11 GMT -5
Our messages haven't gone very far, though. I don't know how far our early radio and television signals can really get, but they're not even a century old, which means they aren't even 100 light years away by now. The universe is tens of billions of light years in diameter. Our own galaxy (the Milky Way) is 100,000 light years in diameter, so our earliest, piddly little signals are only 0.1% of the way across. Barely a whisper. The Arecibo message sent in mid 70s took 25 years to arrive at its destination (some group of stars/planets out there), and even if it was heard, translated, and replied to instantly, the reply won't make it here for another 14 years or so. Hopefully we'll all be around by then, though.. how cool would it be to get something back? An inter-planetary "sup?" EDIT: They'll probably be horrified to find out that we're made out of meat: ~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Dec 2, 2010 19:53:16 GMT -5
If there are aliens out there, and they happen to find out about us, and actually give a crap that we're here (I personally think its a pretty massive assumption that curiosity is a universal trait), I hope they're of the sort that just decide we're too much trouble and don't bother with us.
That's right. I don't want to meet aliens. Because if they have the technology to travel here, they have the technology to wipe us off the map. And I hate being anhialated.
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Post by takewithfood on Dec 2, 2010 20:18:35 GMT -5
I just found out that the Aricebo signal was aimed directly AT the star cluster or whatever. By the time the message got to that spot, the stars weren't even there anymore. -____-' WTF.
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Post by WildKnight on Dec 2, 2010 20:48:29 GMT -5
I just found out that the Aricebo signal was aimed directly AT the star cluster or whatever. By the time the message got to that spot, the stars weren't even there anymore. -____-' WTF. ~TWF Awesome. There is no better word for that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 5:13:33 GMT -5
v If there are aliens out there, and they happen to find out about us, and actually give a crap that we're here (I personally think its a pretty massive assumption that curiosity is a universal trait), I hope they're of the sort that just decide we're too much trouble and don't bother with us. That's right. I don't want to meet aliens. Because if they have the technology to travel here, they have the technology to wipe us off the map. And I hate being anhialated. I am a firm believer that if we encounter an ET race that it will become a sh*t storm. We can't even get along with each other on our planet, much less people from other planets. If they are anything like us (and I'm willing to bet they will be), we're going to see maybe a few fake handshakes, and so on before one race slips the other a Trojan Horse, or smallpox in a blanket so to speak and it can only get worse from there. I acknowledge the possibility that other life forms could have possibly been on this planet at a point in time, but if that is true then the fallout from that encounter still causes wars, or an excuse to start them. The next time there’s a big encounter I don’t think we should be looking forward to that.
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Post by Kanzu on Dec 3, 2010 6:45:03 GMT -5
If human life ever encounters aliens, they will straight up kill us and kill us again without even thinking about it. So says Stephen Hawking.
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Post by takewithfood on Dec 3, 2010 9:27:22 GMT -5
I imagine that any civilization that is capable of building modern or advanced technology has similar aims as our own. I figure that aliens won't be any different from us, except for some major cultural and biological differences.
In other words, my guess is that they will have the same aims that we would, only their definition of what's good and what isn't would likely be viewed from a very, very different perspective. And yeah, I think that's a recipe for horrible trouble.
Think about how much human cultures have in common: we're all the same species, we have many of the same core values (whether we adhere to them or not is a different matter..), we have very similar lifestyles on a basic level, etc.. but we take all of this for granted and tend to only see small differences. Imagine what it would be like to meet a completely different species from a very different planet. Ugh. Not pretty.
I think most individual humans won't wish any ill towards the aliens, but how we behave as individuals and how we behave as a species are two very, very different concepts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 12:29:01 GMT -5
I'm not sur how different view of right and wrong will be between races. Acording to most myths humanity learned our ways of thinking from gods, or something else that wasn't from earth. I just happen to beleive aliens are more likely than deities. Though, I'm not to stuborn to admit the possibility or a god, or gods.
Though if you go through human mythology and replace the work god with alien they look like us, taught us how to think, and in some cases enslaved us, and even canibalised us. I'm not sure if that is the right work for an alien eating a human even though we look simular in theory, but you get the point.
When the white man first came to the new world they were worshiped as gods because of te shiney armor and technology. So, I could see out ansestors beleiving some kind of alien race wearing out landish clothing and advanced technology to be gods.
Anothes thing is that according to myth aliens (I simply replaced the word gods with aliens) fought in some kind of great civil war due to the way that humans were being treated, and myths sort of fade into nothing there. According to the myths the good gods won and started anew.
in this thoery if history really does repeat itself and we enounter aliens again then they will most likely enslave us, and take our planet, but just maybe we might get lucky enough to get the support of others that would keep it from happening again.
Accoring to prophecy, in theory, they will be unbound, and come back. Then there will be a war the likes we haven't seen on this planet for thousands of years.
Again, this is all theory
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Post by WildKnight on Dec 3, 2010 12:31:30 GMT -5
So I'm thinking on the History Channel thread, F-Bomb is deeply confused about why some people don't take Ancient Astronauts seriously...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 12:41:17 GMT -5
I watch the history channel, but I still find the presence of aliens in a corporial form more likely than gods and angels. As much history that is written about it makes it hard not to beleive something was here, but I've never actually seem a god. Anyone I know who claims to have seen god asks to pass the plate on Sundays, or is I'm a straight jacket.
However with all the information that supports there could be other livable planets out there makes it easier to beleive we could have encountered aliens. I understand life forms, and envornments. However most religious types just say,"don't question the work of the lord," because they dont have an explination. I'm too curious to stop there.
Laugh all you want, but if you beleive in Christianity then your story is about as likely as ancient astronauts. I'm not saying either way is false, I'm just saying that aliens are more likely.
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