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Post by WildKnight on Feb 13, 2009 7:11:46 GMT -5
Actually Cannonball carries people all the time. One of the best methods I've ever seen in comics to get a heavy hitter to the frontline fast is to have Cannonball "taxi" them there.
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Post by takewithfood on Feb 13, 2009 8:42:27 GMT -5
Yeah, you could still pick someone up, no worries.
EDIT: Oh, can we put in a line about the limit of how much you can carry being equal to your Strength?
Because otherwise you can have a Str 1 person with Flight 7 somehow picking up 6 people and flying around with them at 200 mph. That doesn't seem right.
It's not so much that I don't believe their powers of flight are that strong (AN 7 says they are) but carrying a person implies they're using their arms and hands. I feel that their arms and hands are limited by their actual Strength score.
~TWF
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Post by Neros on Feb 13, 2009 10:22:03 GMT -5
I thought the force field would prevent you from picking something up when you where blasting away?
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Post by takewithfood on Feb 13, 2009 10:47:14 GMT -5
It shouldn't, as it isn't a true force field. People Cannonball touch simply get protected by the same field - people he hits, just get hit.
But as a rule, people he carries shouldn't be able to act.
~TWF
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Post by Neros on Feb 13, 2009 11:10:35 GMT -5
Hmm.. But how can he touch them when his force field is up? If he swoops in to pick someone up, he would have to lower it or something to touch the target..
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Post by takewithfood on Feb 13, 2009 11:53:40 GMT -5
It's helpful not to think of it as a force field, exactly. It's not a plane of force in the typical sense, and it has different properties. Like I said, if he wants to touch someone, he can simply extend the blast field around them.
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 13, 2009 12:54:36 GMT -5
Originally Cannonball's Force Field was never described as a Force Field. It was simply "he and anyone/thing he carries are invulnerable to damage" and that was that.
I suspect that describing it as a force field was just a convenient thing for the game
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Post by Dionon on Feb 13, 2009 15:02:47 GMT -5
Originally Cannonball's Force Field was never described as a Force Field. It was simply "he and anyone/thing he carries are invulnerable to damage" and that was that. I suspect that describing it as a force field was just a convenient thing for the game /agree... I never knew why they made it a force field... but I can kinda understand why they didn't give him the immunity..... Someone with the Blasting Option should have no problems picking someone up... However... one way to emulate what Cannonball does, is "When someone is blasting... they gain a Bonus to Toughness = Stones Spent..." So if Cannonball spends 9 stones to fly somewhere, he'd get a bonus 9 toughness... that makes him pretty much immune to damage while Blasting....
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Post by WildKnight on Feb 13, 2009 15:15:39 GMT -5
Thats what I was suggesting way back. Of course the Toughness bonus would have to extend to passengers as well.
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Post by Dionon on Feb 13, 2009 15:25:58 GMT -5
There we go.... easy peasy solve... no more freakin Force Field problems..
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Post by takewithfood on Feb 13, 2009 15:29:34 GMT -5
I'll write that up later. ^__^
This makes Blasting friggin' expensive (as it should be) but you get a lot of bang (literally) for your buck. Movement, damage, defense; it's a major all-in-one Action.
~TWF
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Post by Neros on Feb 13, 2009 17:55:45 GMT -5
Hmm... Are we gona be using that +1 Defense per stone spend into a Movement action vs range attacks thing as in the original book? Because if so, he would gain Double defense against range combat.. But then again, it still not as bad as the original blasting rules
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Post by takewithfood on Feb 13, 2009 18:02:10 GMT -5
I've never known if that was intended to mean the stones they spend on speed, or the speed number they're traveling at.
Because someone who has Flight 4 can put 1 stone into Flight and move at Speed 4. So, is the modifier 1 or is it 4?
Personally, I would make the modifier 1. That's how I run things.
~TWF
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Post by Neros on Feb 13, 2009 18:51:55 GMT -5
It sais in the book its per stone spend into the action..
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Post by takewithfood on Feb 13, 2009 19:00:48 GMT -5
No, it doesn't. It says "+1R/stone of target speed". That could mean almost anything. It's an awkward rule, really. It doesn't distinguish between Flight and someone just running (since Flight is more efficient, someone flying at several hundred mph is going to be as hard to hit as someone running as fast as a car.)
~TWF
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