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Post by Dullahan on Apr 15, 2012 15:53:29 GMT -5
Course some editors are egotistical morons, who force their opinions and interpretations on works, without regard to what actually makes sense, and will screw up everything they touch if no one can say no to them(which is often).
Not saying your wrong, just pointing out the other side of the issue.
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 16:08:38 GMT -5
STILL POSSIBLY SPOILERS
I blame executive meddling because the show had two lengthy and (to my knowledge) unexplained hiatuses, and returned feeling uncharacteristically disjoined and with episodes aired out of sequence, and so on. It just doesn't seem likely to me that they planned for it to be this way.
That's just how I see it, though.
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 16:15:40 GMT -5
Course some editors are egotistical morons, who force their opinions and interpretations on works Star Wars Episodes 4 - 6 = collaborative efforts with people who were able to get in Lucas' way Star Wars Episodes 1 - 3 = George Lucas' unfettered creativity *shrugs, drops mic*
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 16:16:20 GMT -5
I blame executive meddling because the show had two lengthy and (to my knowledge) unexplained hiatuses, and returned feeling uncharacteristically disjoined and with episodes aired out of sequence, and so on. It just doesn't seem likely to me that they planned for it to be this way. That's just how I see it, though. ~TWF I think you're putting entirely too much stock in the notion that the writers "planned" anything.
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Post by Dullahan on Apr 15, 2012 16:17:41 GMT -5
Course some editors are egotistical morons, who force their opinions and interpretations on works Star Wars Episodes 4 - 6 = collaborative efforts with people who were able to get in Lucas' way Star Wars Episodes 1 - 3 = George Lucas' unfettered creativity *shrugs, drops mic* One More Day. I can do this all day.
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 16:22:39 GMT -5
Star Wars Episodes 4 - 6 = collaborative efforts with people who were able to get in Lucas' way Star Wars Episodes 1 - 3 = George Lucas' unfettered creativity *shrugs, drops mic* One More Day. I can do this all day. One More Day? You mean the thing that Strazyinski wrote? What does that prove?
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 16:24:09 GMT -5
I blame executive meddling because the show had two lengthy and (to my knowledge) unexplained hiatuses, and returned feeling uncharacteristically disjoined and with episodes aired out of sequence, and so on. It just doesn't seem likely to me that they planned for it to be this way. That's just how I see it, though. ~TWF I think you're putting entirely too much stock in the notion that the writers "planned" anything. Could be, but that's the way it seemed to me. There were an awful lot of clues strewn about in various episodes with regards to who the real mole was, that Ms. Martian was actually a white martian, who Artemis' father was, etc. That's a lot of preplanned intrigue, and they set it all up pretty well.. they just screwed up the endings to essentially everything. After the second hiatus most of the character development seemed suspiciously mishandled to me. Anyway, we're repeating ourselves at this point. I have my theory, you disagree. Let's move on, ya? ^__^ ~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 16:29:37 GMT -5
Move... on(?)
Pretty sure I can beat this dead horse a while longer.
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Post by Dullahan on Apr 15, 2012 16:30:48 GMT -5
One More Day. I can do this all day. One More Day? You mean the thing that Strazyinski wrote? What does that prove? ....I'm going to assume sarcasm here. Am I right to do so?
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 16:55:39 GMT -5
Move... on(?) Pretty sure I can beat this dead horse a while longer. Oh, and I forgot to mention that this is a Greg Weisman show, who also did stuff like Gargoyles and Spectacular Spider-Man. Those both had a lot of preplanned intrigue and character development. ~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 17:01:21 GMT -5
One More Day? You mean the thing that Strazyinski wrote? What does that prove? ....I'm going to assume sarcasm here. Am I right to do so? No, I'm serious. I've heard a lot of fanboy insinuations, but I've never seen any evidence that the problem there was editorial in any way. They wanted a younger, single Spider-Man, and so they made one.
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Post by Jet on Apr 15, 2012 17:18:37 GMT -5
I think he's referring to the fact that Straczynski HATED writing OMD, but Quesada forced him to do it anyway. While I can understand where thats coming from, he still could've done it in a better way.
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 17:22:39 GMT -5
I think he's referring to the fact that Straczynski HATED writing OMD, but Quesada forced him to do it anyway. While I can understand where thats coming from, he still could've done it in a better way. Yeah, I see that now. I looked it up I don't see where Quesada is coming from though. He hates Mary Jane, and he's the Executive Editor, so he gives a giant middle finger to the fans? Lame. Anyway this actually kind of speaks to my point. Quesada took sole control of the creative direction of the comic book... and we got that.
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 17:25:44 GMT -5
When a thread about your TV show casually segues into a discussion about One More Day, you have done something WRONG.
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 17:26:38 GMT -5
When a thread about your TV show casually segues into a discussion about One More Day, you have done something WRONG. ~TWF Bad creative choices are bad creative choices. Also, Star Wars was in there. Briefly.
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