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Post by Puck on Oct 15, 2011 22:15:41 GMT -5
Ha, knew theyd stiff wally >< Did like the latest episode though Zatarra made me smile, gonna go see if he talks backward later!
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 15, 2011 22:30:38 GMT -5
C'mon dude... Wally West is BY FAR the lamest of the 4 major Flashes. You can't "stiff" someone that sucks that hard already.
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Post by mrmackadocious on Oct 15, 2011 23:56:32 GMT -5
4 Flashes?? Wally, Jay, Bart and.....
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Post by Puck on Oct 16, 2011 0:03:24 GMT -5
I like wally, he makes me laugh.
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Post by Jet on Oct 16, 2011 3:56:40 GMT -5
4 Flashes?? Wally, Jay, Bart and..... Barry Allen. The Silver Age flash, you know?
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Post by shenron on Oct 16, 2011 4:28:33 GMT -5
Barry Allen was always my favorite. Second would be the old guy
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 16, 2011 6:30:30 GMT -5
Barry Allen was always my favorite. Second would be the old guy Same
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 16, 2011 6:31:56 GMT -5
I like wally, he makes me laugh. Wally is a sorry excuse for a character, from a writer's perspective. His arc makes no sense. He was the "funny guy" as a youth, and as he became an adult, for no apparent reason whatsoever, he became the last thing the DC Universe needed... yet another scientist-hero. He basically morphed INTO Barry Allen, but with red hair.
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Post by kito on Oct 16, 2011 10:36:28 GMT -5
just saw what I am guessing was season 1 ending with the injustice league.
Lol best line ever was in it Spoiler alert. " I feel naked and not in a fun way"
Sadly hello Megan was back.
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Post by takewithfood on Oct 16, 2011 10:41:01 GMT -5
That line cracked me up, too. But that wasn't the end of the season; it was only episode 14, and there are 26 in total. Episode 15 airs this coming Friday. ^__^
~TWF
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Post by Beacon on Oct 16, 2011 10:49:14 GMT -5
Wally is a sorry excuse for a character, from a writer's perspective. His arc makes no sense. He was the "funny guy" as a youth, and as he became an adult, for no apparent reason whatsoever, he became the last thing the DC Universe needed... yet another scientist-hero. He basically morphed INTO Barry Allen, but with red hair. That isn’t Wally. Comic Wally was a mechanic, not a scientist. He was smarter than he lets on but – if you’re the Master of Speed – you’re going to want to read up on things like velocity. As far as characterization goes, young Wally was basically textbook “sad clown” (emphasis on sad) who grew up to become one of DCs more complex heroes (his relationship with his Rogues alone makes him NOTHING like Barry). Unless you’re talking about JLU Wally. That Wally actually was a scientist (though it got mentioned ONCE) and – if Orion is to be believed – a bit of a sad clown (emphasis on clown). The Young Justice cartoon’s Wally seems to be using a lot of 80s comic Wally. Personally I’d rank the Flashes… 1) Wally – Just plain awesome but he lost a LOT when they undid his outing as a hero. 2) Jay – One kickass senior citizen. 3) Bart – But he was better as Impulse. 4) Barry – I Don’t hate him like a do Hal Jordan or Hawkman but he’s still pretty one-note.
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 16, 2011 11:15:57 GMT -5
Uh... I don't care what Wally's "job" was. He was clearly presented as a science guy in the comics. He knew how all of the machines worked. He understood (and talked about, a lot) physics, etc.
He may not have collected a paycheck for his science skills, but when the guy was relatively frequently sent to work alongside Ray Palmer (and he was), it's pretty clear that it was understood within the hero community that Wally knew science.
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Post by Beacon on Oct 16, 2011 12:01:58 GMT -5
Wally knows a lot about speed … which is good because otherwise he and/or his foes and/or his friends would be a greasy smudge on a wall somewhere.
Static went out of his way to learn about electricity, magnetism, ect when he got powers but Virgil is seen as less a “science hero” and more as a “smart kid hero”.
Johnny Storm knows a LOT about fire and heat (admittedly, probably because Reed TOLD him) but – outside the Ultimate universe (where he IS a scientist) – I’ve never seen him as a “science hero”.
Storm knows more about weather than most meteorologists but she isn’t a “science hero”.
Knowing how your powers work is just common sense.
That isn’t to say that’s true for all heroes. The Legion of Superheroes seems to only have survived as long as they have because Brainiac 5 constantly tells his crazy-powerful-but-too-dumb-to-live teammates how to use their powers effectively. Actually, you could argue that sending Wally out with a genius like Ray Palmer proves Wally isn’t all that smart and they’re worried he might need help in the field. I’m not making that argument since I don’t think Wally is an idiot (though he’s not as smart as Ray) but I could.
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Post by WildKnight on Oct 16, 2011 12:34:07 GMT -5
I'm not talking about field work. I'm talking about "hey, we need to figure out X... hey, Wally and Ray, hit the lab!"
Wally was an expert on physics. Not just speed. The entire science of physics.
And Superman gets by just fine without a clue how his powers work (and he moves just as a fast as Wally).
Face it dude. Wally is a science hero. He's more Peter Parker than Reed Richards, but he's still a science guy.... which I wouldn't care about (except that DC has SO many of them...) if it weren't for the fact that it made no sense given what we were led to believe about him when he was a kid hero.
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Post by Beacon on Oct 16, 2011 13:41:19 GMT -5
Funny that you should mention Superman. His intelligence is written so all over the place that he’s either as smart as (or smarter than) Batman or as someone who has no idea how his powers work. Personally I see his type of intelligence as being similar to Spider-Man; he’s naturally brilliant but he doesn’t apply himself as much as his “science hero” peers.
Anyway I just saw the new episode
I’m amazed that the “…not in a fun way” line made it past the censors. If Wally was smart he’d turn his attention to Artemis.
Interesting Injustice Gang lineup. I haven’t even heard of the magic guy and I only know about the Atomic Skull because of JLU. Poison Ivy was pretty devastating, though.
So they seem to be going with movie Joker. Ledger certainly made his mark on the character.
I loved the Fate callback.
I am so f-ing sick of Vandal Savage. He’s completely ineffective as a mastermind and most of his rep is built around unsubstantiated claims that he was various great historical figures. He’s made even more useless since one of his teammates/co-conspirators is actually a competent immortal master villain.
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