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Post by takewithfood on Apr 1, 2012 17:07:12 GMT -5
That cracked me up, too. ^__^ It feels like a little dig at Marvel for cancelling Spectacular - or at least I choose to believe it is.
~TWF
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 6:28:32 GMT -5
Next week's episode is the finale! ^__^
SPOILERSBELOW
~TWF
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Post by Jet on Apr 15, 2012 7:57:12 GMT -5
So, the problem that was all over the entire season was resolved by... sincere confession.
... FINALLY! And I loved it ^^
EDIT: Anyone who goes this far into this thread and havent seen latest episodes doesnt care anyway.
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 13:35:55 GMT -5
You loved that? It was awful. First episode I watched this season, and I immediately regretted it. Is this show for 6 year olds?
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 14:11:31 GMT -5
I'm glad they finally got over the "who is the mole?" stuff, but the conversation they had where it finally all came out was incredibly abrupt, and that made it all rather unsatisfying. Still looking forward to the finale, though, and the start of the new season the week after.
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 14:16:27 GMT -5
Resolving a storyline that has gone on for two seasons with "yeah, sorry guys, my bad"
"S'okay dude, we love you!"
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EXACTLY why that show is crap. *shrugs*
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 14:39:56 GMT -5
The last several episodes have felt strangely paced to me in general, while we're on the subject. The whole episode where Zatara winds up becoming the new Dr. Fate was poorly written, as it started out as a Billy Batson story and wound up a Zatana story with no comfortable transition between the two main characters. Then there were, what, three episodes in a row that were all about being suspicious about who the mole might be with resolution and very little advancement of the plot to show for it. Then all three bombshells go off in one scene with basically no consequence. It's so odd that it reeks of executive meddling somehow, as does the long hiatus and the strange timing of the start of the second season. I wonder if they didn't just hack the script apart somehow and then patch it up in a hasty manner. The early episodes had a more thoughtfully crafted and paced structure, both individually and in terms of longer plot arcs, and then things got really choppy and bizarre towards the end of the season. Some examples of the mangled episode structure: In Episode 16, "Failsafe", the one where the Justice League is seemingly killed off, leaving the team as Earth's last line of defense, Rocket is briefly seen in the team's HQ suiting up with Zatanna, Red Arrow, Garth, and Tula, even though we haven't met her yet in the show. We know all of the other characters, but not Rocket, so why is she there? Also, in Episode 9, "Bereft", when Ms. Martian is restoring Superboy's memories, we briefly see a bunch of clips from past episodes. Unfortunately this includes a clip from Episode 10 where she's in her school uniform. Clearly these episodes were aired out of sequence. So, I'm not prepared to write it off as crap - it still has a lot going for it. I could also do without deadbeat dad Superman and the persistently recurring catch phrases ("Hello, Megan!" "I hate monkeys!" and basically every other line Robin has), but I have hope for the second season. If it can get back on track it could still be pretty good. EDIT: The creators have promised that a member of the team dies by the end of the season, and there is only one episode left. If nobody dies in the finale, maybe that's what they cut out. EDIT EDIT: Oh, one more big gripe: While it's nice to have new characters, and it's especially nice to see more female characters, I'm pretty disappointed that they've been basically giving each male character a girlfriend. I really like Artemis - she's actually my favourite in the show - but Zatanna hasn't been fleshed out properly, and already we get Rocket, just one episode from the finale? WTF? Great, now all the boys have a race-appropriate girlfriend. -___-' The shoehorning of these last two characters also reeks of executive meddling. ~TWF
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Post by Jet on Apr 15, 2012 15:01:57 GMT -5
Yes, the way they handled it was a bit dissapointing, but they did one thing I havent seen much in fiction - Communication. I keep hearing people saying stuff like "Oh this is stupid, why do they keep secrets? Why cant they just talk and get it over with?". And so, they finally did exactly that and... it worked! Lesson to you kids- if you have problems, talking with your family and friends is the best way to fix them. Or at least, its a good start So yeah, I guess it is for 6 year olds Also, Im still enjoying the show. Too bad not everyone can.
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 15:07:44 GMT -5
Sorry, it has zero depth. Everything on that show is exactly what you think it is, and I literally find myself thinking "they won't possibly do something THIS lame, will they?" and then they do... every single episode. Add to that the facts that the animation is terrible, the team is entirely made up of unlikable goons, my favorite DC characters are dead, unrepresented, or inexplicably assholes (Fate, Lantern, & Superman respectively, if you're wondering), Batman is the Father figure, the villains they face are about as menacing as a house cat with bread on it's head I just don't see what's to enjoy. Wake me up if Robin ever starts acting like Robin.
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 15:23:47 GMT -5
So I buckled under the weight of my curiosity and just watched the finale. I am disappoint.
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 15:26:20 GMT -5
I hate to say I told you so, but...
Wait, I LOVE to say I told you so.
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 15:31:23 GMT -5
Oh, it wasn't any real surprise to me, and I'm still hopeful about the second season. I don't want to comment any more, though, for the sake of spoilers and stuff.
~TWF
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Post by Dullahan on Apr 15, 2012 15:31:36 GMT -5
Yeeeah. I love arguing with Wildknight, but...
I have to agree with him on this show.
I tried to watch it. I tried to like it.
The writing...when it's not idiotic, it's just...bland.
I don't see anything stupid about it, but there's nothing that draws me in.
Whenever I watch the Batman: Animated Series, I want to see more(even when I can't because I can't see more of the episodes, which ticks me off). This show? I watched one episode...and saw no reason to watch the next.
No character pulled me in, Superboy doesn't seem that bright, Zatana and Ms. Martian were barely in it, which is a shame, because I actually liked what I saw of them. The plot was paper thin and pushed forward by flawed logic and convienence, and the only good part was Lex Luthor. And that's because he actually seemed competent, smart, and clever.
And he was still bland as heck!
You might say, well you have to give them more of a chance than one episode!
Thing is...well, if the writers aren't going to give me a reason, why should I? I can be watching stuff that actually interests me.
EDIT: Oh, and bread kitty!
Lord do I need a pet
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Post by takewithfood on Apr 15, 2012 15:42:42 GMT -5
I was into this season for the intrigue, mostly. The first few episodes were pretty bland, but once Artemis showed up and people started keeping secrets, and it became clear that the writers had a long-term arc planned out, I got interested. I think some of the writing has been clever, but it's really been hit and miss.
In general, I found the pros to be: - I like a lot of the animation and character design - some really strong voice acting performances from a pretty impressive cast - continuity and metaplot - some character development - some intrigue
Unfortunately the last three pros in that list were mangled somewhere after the hiatus, and became cons rather than pros. I'm pretty convinced now that there was some serious executive meddling, and I remain very curious about season 2.
~TWF
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Post by WildKnight on Apr 15, 2012 15:47:14 GMT -5
I don't get why your inclination is to blame executive meddling.
Artists (including writers) are egotistical morons, and without someone to ground them, will screw up everything they touch.
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