|
Post by shenron on Jul 11, 2011 18:10:11 GMT -5
Alright, I think Duke Classifies as a Super Hero, kind of like Gandolf. They both took a level in BADA$$.
Alright people, so this is the long awaited return of the LEGEND. I will be picking up my copy next week.
At this moment, I have only played the demo and a few levels at my buddies house but I have read a lot of reviews and I found a lot of the reviews overly harsh. Here is the main beefs in just about every review, some are better then others though;
1. Too Vulgar (Really? Its Duke Nukem, grow a sense of humor and a pair) 2. Puzzle Scenes or Random Level exploration too long (Alright, I can see this but I can also understand why they did.) 3. Only allowed 2 guns like all modern day FPS (Sure, they did not give you a scrolling inventory like Duke 3D, but all the weapons you need are found on every level or drop from the aliens) 4. Graphics, etc. (Alright, it has been stuck in production for 12 years and seriously, I think we get kinda spoiled on graphics)
I just think the problem with most of the reviews and hate out there is that they are trying to compare it to modern day shooters and that is the wrong approach. It is a updated late 90's shooter that has a niche with true fans and people who just like the old school feel.
Well, I am just checking if there is any love for Duke out there. Like to hear your thoughts, etc. If anything, I might down grade to the regular edition instead of the Balls of Steel Edition, but the stuff that comes with it is almost to good to pass up.
|
|
|
Post by Jet on Jul 13, 2011 1:51:43 GMT -5
And I think you're trying to defend this game waaaaay too much. I havent played it myself, but I saw a lets play of few first hours and damn, its baaad. Also, to answer your counterarguments: 1. We know its vulgar. Thats what people love about Duke Nukem and THATS what they WANTED. When a hardcore fan says its "too vulgar" - there is something wrong here. Its kinda like having a hardcore Street Fighter fan complaining that new game has "too many fighters to choose from". Yeah, its kinda the main point of the series, isnt it weird that they complain about THAT? Plus, really? Throwing poop? Exploding chicks? Boob walls? Thats not even funny, its just sad.
2. Puzzles. Maaan, they're annoying to watch and I cant imagine how annoying they are to play. It might be fun for first few minutes to play a mini-Duke in an RC Car, but for an hour?
3. They hail this title as the "great comeback to old age of FPS's", before Halo and modern war shooters. Everyone was like "YAY!"... untill they realized that two defining features of said game are here too. Two weapons is NEVER enough for Duke, most of the time you'll be just using shotgun and rocket launcher (or whatever big gun you find), becouse they're safest bet. Other guns though? Pistol stops being used once you get shotgun, alien laser is too weak to be used effectively and shrink ray is funny for about five minutes, then novelty (and ammo) runs out. And NO NEW GUNS! I get the whole "he's back", but after all these years you kinda expect him to get at least one or two new toys to play with. The second feature? Self-regenerating health... why? It makes about as much sense as medpacks lying all around the world, so why bother changing something to give fans even more things to nitpick about? 4. We expected graphics to do one and only one job- show us relatively sexy babes. It doesnt. If they're not avarage or buggy, they're just ugly as hell. And thats not even saying a word about the rest of the graphics, especially when Duke is shrunk. It doesnt say a lot when Morrowind has more detailed graphics then 2011 title.
And no- none of this is justified by "it was in limbo for 12 years". They wanted us to treat it fairly and be honest about? Well, Duke fails in what it is, what we wanted it to be and what it was supposed to become. Those trailers back ten years ago? THAT was a game worth playing, even if graphics were worse, animation choppier and babes even worse looking. But it looked fun and it looked like Duke Nukem.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 8:53:56 GMT -5
1. To Vulgar? Wait these people did play the original Duke Nukem Games right?
2. Puzzle Problems? God forbid that first person shooter fan boys would have to think.
3. That Blows, being able to scroll through your inventory is something they should have kept. You have the fans who are like "Oh that's not realistic." Fact is some couch potato being a bad ass is unrealistic as well.
4. I've said this before, and offended people everywhere, and I'll do it again. A bad game with good graphics is like an ugly woman wearing too much make up. A good game, movie or woman is going to be good regardless of the graphics. It's either going to look good, or it's not. There's a point to where prettying it up just goes overboard.
I've been waiting for years to play the new Duke Nukem game. When I got rid of my systems months back I wasn't even thinking about this game. I'll probably never know how bad, or how good it is.
|
|
|
Post by takewithfood on Jul 13, 2011 9:55:24 GMT -5
I haven't played DNF, but I have seen many reviews and watched a lot of gameplay videos. What stands out to me is that the clear hatred of women that went into this game. Lots of games have had prostitutes and strippers, bimbos and scantily clad heroines, but when you start involving wall breasts and alien rape ships, you step into territory that is way beyond the pay grade of words like "vulgar".
Aside from the gratuitous misogyny, the real failure of the game from what I can see is that none of the humour or action makes up for the weak graphics, poor level design, ridiculous load screens, or clunky gameplay.
Someone, and I can't recall who, compared Duke Nukem's level of humour to that sketchy uncle who's never really around. When you're 8 years-old he seems so cool and his jokes are so funny and edgy, and you can't figure out why none of the other adults seem to want him around. But then he shows up at a family picnick like twenty years later and you realize that he's just a fat, smelly, obnoxious drunkard who recycles the same old jokes, has a troubling fascination with poop, and who works way too hard to convince everyone that he's straight.
Big guns, sunglasses, cigars, beer, and one-liners were edgy and "cool" in the late 80s and even the early 90s. Sort of. But a couple decades later, it's just embarrassing. You could easily overlook this stuff if the game was actually fun to play, but it isn't. You'd hear people saying "Who cares if the graphics are crap and I'm backtracking through this level for the second time; it's worth it for the _______________________ part." But there just isn't anything to fill in that blank.
~TWF
|
|
|
Post by WildKnight on Jul 13, 2011 10:07:26 GMT -5
Am I the only one who just didn't give a crap about this game at all? Yes, I played and enjoyed the original. I was 15 (or something). I just don't get the fascination with this particular game "finally" getting a sequel. Strip clubs to shoot up with better graphics this time around? (And why WAS that strip club still in operation in the middle of an alien invasion anyway???)
I don't get it. I couldn't give a crap if I tried.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 10:52:28 GMT -5
I think some of the magic of the game was the fact that we were in a strip club when we were kids. I mainly played Duke Nukem 64, and at that time I think I was in middle school. Once you get old enough to actually go to strip clubs you'd much rather blow your money there than on a video game, or at least that's my outlook.
I'm watching some gameplay of the game, and it looks like a sad nerd's wet dream. I guess the old one was too. I guess it's possible we've just out grew the series.
|
|
|
Post by takewithfood on Jul 13, 2011 10:55:45 GMT -5
I think mostly it's interesting because it's the poster child for vaporware.
It's a little bit like the fascination most teens have with beer. Kids hear great things about it, but they have to wait a decade and a half to get it. Ordinarily they probably wouldn't care that much, but after a decade and a half of deprivation, when they're finally old enough to get their hands on some, they do so just to see what all the fuss is about. Turns out it tastes like moldy bread and makes you want to throw up. Some people hate it; other people kinda just shrug; others still are so convinced that there must be something to the hype that they go into denial, profess their love for it, and consume it in enormous quantities as if to make a point.
If it came out in the mid-90s like it was supposed to, nobody would care. Except maybe for the rape ships.
EDIT: Obviously a lot of kids get beer long before they got DNF. ^__^ I had my first cup when I was three. My Dad didn't realize what was going on until he picked up his glass of beer and discovered that it tasted suspiciously like apple juice, and was in the same sort of glass as my apple juice...
~TWF
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 11:00:16 GMT -5
If it came out in the mid-90s like it was supposed to, nobody would care. Except maybe for the rape ships. ~TWF Yeah, I'm not to crazy about that idea either. It reminds me too much of Ted Bundy. I know that it's a urban myth that "Aliens" take people to their spaceship for probing, but with crap like this a Ted Bundy type video game is inevitable. If that happens I bet van sales will sky rocket.
|
|