Er... heh.

[Manticore]

I can't get my head around the changes to the admin system. I was trying to create this board for Genetic Aberrant:

Okay! That marks our fourth player! Wii would like to create the board?

Board Name: The PilgrimVerse
Board Description: Hit love right where it hurts!

Subboard Name: CADs
Subboard Description: Choose your character!

Subboard Name: OOC
Subboard Description: For all your meta-gaming needs!

However, I couldn't work out how to move my newly created board to the bottom of the list of Online Roleplay Games. I couldn't move it from the top without turning it into a sub-board for another game.

So, in the end I deleted it in frustration. However, I must have accidentally pressed the wrong button and deleted the previous General Online RP Discussion board instead. Um, yeah.

Sorry to all the people who lost some of their posts when I did that! It was an accident! I'm sorry!!!

[Manticore]

I managed to save this CAD (belonging to Kira) from a tab I had open before I accidentally deleted the old Online RP Discussion board.

Name: Kathy Bennis
Occupation: Ninja/Delivery girl
Height: 5'3"
Species: Ninja

Biography/Story:

Kathy Bennis was born on March 4th 1991. After giving birth to Kathy her mom often lost the baby girl. For some reason, Kathy was very hard to keep track of. She had this aura around her that made her hard to find. It was a silent aura, one that would keep Kathy hidden. It was a bad thing.

Growing up, Kathy had no friends because nobody really saw her. She attended school, turned in her work, and went home. All without being acknowledge. She had one friend throughout school. Only one friend. And that was someone outside of her school even. It was a penpal. It was easier to notice a letter from her then her herself.

At the age of 15 she was discovered by a ninja. He could only see her without awknowledging her because he was so skilled. He did have difficult, though. He thought she'd make a good ninja with this skill of hers. But she didn't think of it like a skill. She thought it was a curse. But, if he thought she'd be good, she would go with him to train. So everyday after school she would train with him. She graduated ninja class after turning 18, and learned the ways of the ninja. Kathy learned something good at ninja school. She learned that her natural invisibility could be cancel once someone actually acknowledges she's there. Once someone knows she's there, she becomes a regular person. But it resets after she's been away from someone for a few hours.

After graduating both regular school and ninja school, she got a job at the post office. She works with Ramona, but Ramona never spoke to her before. None of her coworkers have either. Only her boss talks to her. She usually acknowledges her when Kathy punches in for work. Thank goodness for the punch in system.

Kathy has been around the normal Scott Pilgrim crew for awhile now. Though nobody talked to her yet, as nobody acknowledge her yet. She's been to some parties before. She wasn't invited, but she wanted to attend to try and speak up. She never did, so she just was there.

However now she wants to change things. She's 21 now, it's been three years since she's been an adult. She wants to be known, and get friends! She'll now attempt to speak up..

~Abilities:

Intelligence: 2
Strength: 2
Agility: 4
Speed: 2
Durability: 4
Health: 4
Energy: 12
Regeneration 6

~Actions:

Ninja 2 (6w)
+Weapon modifier and Agility bonus
(Specialty: Ninja combat
(Specialty: Sneaking

Social skills 2 (0.66w)
(Specialty: Lonely/Loner
(Specialty: Hobbies

Teleportation 4 (1w)
-Can only teleport 3 miles
-Can't teleport others

Invisibility 2 (4w)
+Action to modifier
-Cannot turn off
(Not actually invisible. Her aura is just really silent that it makes people overlook her)

Photography 4 (Fluff 2w)
+Intelligence bonus
(Specialties: Good shots
(Specialties: Specific angles
(Specialties: Value shots
(Specialties: Action shots

Drawing 6 (fluff 3w)
+Intelligence bonus
(Specialties: Accuracy
(Specialties: Anime style
(Specialties: Realistic styled
(Specialties: Animation
(Specialties: Abstract

Weapon/object tricks 3 (fluff 1w)
+Agility bonus
(Specialties: Juggling
(Specialties: balancing on one finger
(Specialties: twisting/throwing around



~Modifiers:

Ninja Senses +3 (1w)
+Hearing
+Seeing

Fast Draw +1 (0.33w)

Reflexive dodge +3 (3w)
-Through Ninja senses

Deep reserves +2 (4w)

~Equiptment:

+2 ninja sword
+1 ninja armor

~Challenges:

Invisible 2w (She's often ignored/overseen)
Compulsion to stick up for the underdog 3w
Shy 1
Avoids trying to break rules 2w
Deadly Enemies 2w (Rival Ninja Clans)

I don't know if that helps at all.

[Gris]

Whoa, hope that the board can be recovered, pinging takewithfood to see if there is a fixing for such a thing.

[takewithfood]

Oh, wow. Okay, I'll see what I can do. I'll try to contact ProBoards to see if they have a recent backup of the boards for us, but chances are very slim. Even then, I think there's a fee associated (like $20, which is no problem) but I don't know if I can pay it since I'm not actually the board owner; technically I'm just a moderator with a lot of privileges.

I have also encountered that problem with trying to drag a board down to the very bottom of the list. The only way I've found to do it is to make it the second last board, then move the last board above it.

Like, if the boards are like this:

Board A
Board B
Board C

And you want to add "Board D", you put it between B and C temporarily:

Board A
Board B
Board D
Board C

Then you move C up between B and D.

It's really easy to make mistakes when reorganizing boards. They put "delete board" right next to a lot of other useful options, and on a mobile device especially it's insanely easy to misclick (which is why I won't moderate on a mobile device; full keyboard and mouse only). The confirmation message that pops up also puts the "Yes" and "no" buttons right next to each other, which freaks me out.

In general, if you're having trouble or you're feeling confused, just back away and get some help. It's fine if a board is out of place or something, nobody really minds.

On the upside, at least it wasn't a game. ^__^ We've had that happen before, too, though! Anyway, I'll see what I can do, but it's probably not going to make a difference. C'est la vie.

~TWF

[takewithfood]

Alright, here's an update:

1. I've posted a message at ProBoards' support forums asking for help rolling back the boards. I'm not clear if they're currently offering this service, but it's worth a shot.

2. I've put the boards in "maintenance mode" to prevent players from making posts that may just get rolled back anyway.  If you're reading this, it's because you're an admin/moderator of some kind.  Regular members will only see a short message about how we're undergoing maintenance.

With luck, they'll be able to roll us back and we won't lose many/any posts. It's worth a try, I figure.

~TWF

[takewithfood]

I've started to back up as many posts as I can over the last 24 hours. So far I'm up to 8 hours. I'm just copy/pasting the BBCode into a document; if we get rolled back I'll just send the data to people via PMs so they can repost their stuff.

~TWF

[takewithfood]

Well, I'm afraid that ProBoards is unable to roll back our forum, so the changes are permanent. We'll just have to start fresh!

I've taken the boards off of Maintenance Mode, so posting can resume. Sorry I wasn't able to do more.

~TWF

[Gris]

The version on the google cache is quite old, but at least we can see what threads were there, more or less: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:t_YSexxASt4J:murpg.proboards.com/board/145

[Gris]

What sticky's should we have here? A general welcome/explanation one, a players seeking game one, a game seeking players one and a wishlist one? Anything else?

I should have quite some free time tomorrow (More or less 14 hours from now) and a little bit in the next few hours too, so if I can help with anything just poke me.

[dorkknight23]

I'm not going to lie, I've been terrified of accidentally deleting stuff. It's lame it's happened, but, at least we didn't lose any games or write-ups.

Anybody recruiting a game, remember to repost your ad!

[Manah]

Ouch... that's actually quite a lot of data there... Damn.

Thanks for trying to fix it. Guess we'll just have to live with it.

Gris: Sounds about right to me.

[takewithfood]

Yeah, I find it really scary doing anything with the boards like that. These things have happened before, and they'll happen again. I'll say again, the moderator layout in the new version 5 is pretty awkward, and deleting things by accident is unnecessarily easy.

As for moving forward, I suppose we can replace the old Wish List, Bring out your Dead, Games looking for Players, and Players looking for games threads as stickies.

~TWF

[Ushima911]

Yeah, don't fix what's broken, as they say. Give 'em back, boss.

[Dhark]

Mar 9, 2014 14:21:34 GMT -5 Gris said:

What sticky's should we have here? A general welcome/explanation one, a players seeking game one, a game seeking players one and a wishlist one? Anything else?

I should have quite some free time tomorrow (More or less 14 hours from now) and a little bit in the next few hours too, so if I can help with anything just poke me.

At the very least... A thread with he Rules/Guidelines and PoC's for Game Creation.

The Wishlist thread was always a fun-read.

[shenron]

Wow, ya. That sucks but mistakes happen. The new admin system is scary to use I have been really nervous when I have to use it.

I am glad no games were lost or what not.