GHOST RIDER/Johnny Blaze: CAD

[Cernunnos]

This is my take on (Johnny Blaze) Ghost Rider.

Kaimontfendo was kind enough to find the “official” stats for (Dan Ketch) Ghost Rider

here:
ozbot.typepad.com/spideyguide/SMGVotedIn.pdf


I took the information and changed/added some things. What do you think?

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GHOST RIDER

Johnathon “Johnny” Blaze
Johnny / Ghost Rider
Height: 5’10” / 6’2”
Weight: 180 lbs. / 220 lbs.
Eye Color: Blue / Red
Hair Color: Strawberry Blond / None
Species: Human / Demon

ABILITIES
Intelligence: 2 / 2
Strength: 2 / 7
Agility: 2 / 4
Speed: 2 / 4
Durability: 2 / 5

Health: (2) Energy: (6)
Health: (5) Energy: (15)



ACTIONS
Close Combat: 2 / 5
[Strength Bonus and Weapon Modifier]
- Brawling
- Chain Fighting
- Street Fighting

Ranged Combat: 1 / 3
[Weapon Modifier]
- Throwing stars from Chain

Penance Stare: 0 / 6
- Attack vs. Durability
- Very short Range
- Must have eye contact
- Sift through target's past memories having to do with pain/hurting/death, while target relives them
- No damage if target is pure good. Damage if target is good, however has hurt someone before. 2x Damage if target is evil and has hurt someone. 3x Damage if target is pure evil and/or has killed someone. (At GM’s discretion)
- Causes death if damage exceeds the target’s number of white stones. (At GM’s discretion)

Vehicle Operation: 6
- Motorcycle
- Motorcycle Stunts

Mastery of Hellfire: 0 / 6
- Project/Control mystic flame
- Immune to heat/flame
- Force Blast
- Create Fear
- Summon Motorcycle (Spd: 6, Travel over water, walls, & vertical surfaces)
- Channel through objects/weapons

Social Skills: 1 / 2
- Biker Culture
- Occult Lore



MODIFIERS
Appearance, as Ghost Rider, demonic flaming skull

Toughness (+0 / +5)
No 2x Damage vs. bullets and projectiles

Energy/Mental/Magical Defense (+0 / +5)

Targeting: (+0 / +2)

Transformation: Into Ghost Rider, at will or whenever innocent blood is spilled nearby.

Wealth: (1 / 0)



EQUIPMENT
Chain: (+3), Range (2) to Close Combat, mimics Weapon Morphing: (3), adding to either Close or Ranged Combat

[UrbanBlue]

One question: Are you talking about when he first became Ghost Rider or when he had some experience at it?

If its later in his career, I'd up his Close Combat to 2, since he eventually taught Dan Ketch how to defend himself.

[Cernunnos]

Jul 2, 2008 21:44:45 GMT -5 UrbanBlue said:

One question: Are you talking about when he first became Ghost Rider or when he had some experience at it?

If its later in his career, I'd up his Close Combat to 2, since he eventually taught Dan Ketch how to defend himself.

This is supposed to be the Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider right now in Eart 616.

[WildKnight]

He is FAR too weak. Everybody forgets that Danny Ketch Ghost Rider once beat the snot out of the Incredible Hulk, and Johnny Blaze is MORE powerful...

[Cernunnos]

Jul 5, 2008 9:17:46 GMT -5 WildKnight said:

He is FAR too weak. Everybody forgets that Danny Ketch Ghost Rider once beat the snot out of the Incredible Hulk, and Johnny Blaze is MORE powerful...

LOL! Hmmmm... what would you suggest I do?

Right now I could put 1 stone into close combat, and swing with 6 stones worth, from the chain. Then next round I could potentially kill somone.

[WildKnight]

Well, for one thing I would say that Ghost Rider is the text book example of the option "Strength Bonus AND Weapon Modifier"

[Stark]

Yep, the GR's definetly much more powerful than in the Spidey guide, I'm afraid. I usually put him on more or less similar footing than those Cosmic level entities, but without Power Cosmic and with Penance Stare and Mastery of Hellfire. I think he has quite enough potential to be on the same team of the likes of Doctor Strange and the Surfer.

[Cernunnos]

Jul 5, 2008 23:17:18 GMT -5 WildKnight said:

Well, for one thing I would say that Ghost Rider is the text book example of the option "Strength Bonus AND Weapon Modifier"

Were is that in the book?

Ok. I will rework him.

I was thinking about flavoring the Phoenix Force for someone else, and making it “Power of Death.” I don’t see why I can’t give Ghost Rider Power of Death. Basically it would be the same cost and benefits of Phoenix Force… but no giant flaming Phoenix… and well… I could have the AN added to something else instead of flight (it was going to be phase shift for the character I was modifying it for, but that wouldn’t be the case with Ghost Rider) possibly Mastery of Hellfire?

Or I could term it as Power of Hellfire!

[Stark]

I don't know, I kinda see the Phoenix Force power as being a bit too powerful, even for GR... or am I underestimating his power?

[Cernunnos]

Made some changes!

[WildKnight]

I'm on the opposite side of Stark. I actually think the Phoenix Force (Partial) is too weak for its cost (AN+13 is A LOT).

Ghost Rider could be crafted based off of it, but you'd have to switch around several things. I would allow him to add stones from PF to the speed of his motorcycle, and allow the motorcycle to use the Flight speed chart rather than ground speed (in place of the free Flight), and in place of Immunity to Fire & Energy, I would give him Toughness (No AP) at the AN of his PF.

His other powers, like doing hellfire through weapons, would all fit perfectly under the "manipulate matter & energy" area that PF covers. I don't think that Ghost Rider has ever been seen to Teleport or travel time, both of which PF allows, so that could even be replaced with giving him a bonus to Str equal the PF level, or something...

I dunno, probably easier to just build him "straight" LOL

[Stark]

I didn't say the Phoenix Force was too strong for its cost, I said I thought it was too strong for the Ghost Rider, lol.

But as I said also, I'm not sure about this anyway.

[Cernunnos]

Made edits... here is his latest CAD! Think this is too powerful? Think I should reduce the Close Combat/Ranged Combat/Penance Stare/Mastery Hellfire back down 1 (especially after adding x2 free stones/Panel to Hellfire)?


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GHOST RIDER

Johnathon “Johnny” Blaze
Johnny / Ghost Rider
Height: 5’10” / 6’2”
Weight: 180 lbs. / 220 lbs.
Eye Color: Blue / Red
Hair Color: Strawberry Blond / None
Species: Human / Demon

ABILITIES
Intelligence: 2 / 2
Strength: 2 / 7
Agility: 2 / 4
Speed: 2 / 4
Durability: 2 / 6

Health: (2) Energy: (6)
Health: (6) Energy: (18)



ACTIONS
Close Combat: 2 / 6
[Strength Bonus and Weapon Modifier]
- Brawling
- Chain Fighting
- Street Fighting

Ranged Combat: 1 / 4
[Weapon Modifier]
- Throwing stars from Chain

Penance Stare: 0 / 7
- Attack vs. Durability
- Very short Range
- Must have eye contact
- Sift through target's past memories having to do with pain/hurting/death, while target relives them
- No damage if target is pure good. Damage if target is good, however has hurt someone before. 2x Damage if target is evil and has hurt someone. 3x Damage if target is pure evil and/or has killed someone. (At GM’s discretion)
- Causes death if damage exceeds the target’s number of white stones. (At GM’s discretion)

Vehicle Operation: 6
- Motorcycle
- Motorcycle Stunts

Mastery of Hellfire: 0 / 7
- Project/Control mystic flame
- Immune to heat/flame
- Force Blast
- Create Fear
- Summon Motorcycle (Spd: 6, Travel over water, walls, & vertical surfaces)
- Channel through objects/weapons
- 2x Action Number free red/stones/Panel

Hunting/Tracking: 0 / 5
- Urban
- Stalk
- Follow Trail

Social Skills: 1 / 2
- Biker Culture
- Occult Lore



MODIFIERS
Appearance, as Ghost Rider, demonic flaming skull

Toughness (+0 / +5), Nullifies Armor Penetration, No 2x Damage

Energy/Mental/Magical Defense (+0 / +5)

Targeting: (+0 / +2)

Transformation: Into Ghost Rider, at will or whenever innocent blood is spilled nearby.

Wealth: (1 / 0)



EQUIPMENT
Chain: (+3), Range (2) to Close Combat, mimics Weapon Morphing: (3), adding to either Close or Ranged Combat