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Post by Thuellai on Dec 30, 2008 1:16:09 GMT -5
So it's been shown in some cases that DCU characters would break the charts for the MURPG system - Superman has, canonically, a 24 Strength by this system according to one extrapolation, and land-speed cracks out at sonic, which is pathetic for the Flash (who regularly exceeds light speed on a lark). Who wants to come up with a revised 1-10 (or even 1-15) for the DCU?
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Post by Stark on Dec 30, 2008 1:28:20 GMT -5
I don't know... IMO, I like them being based on the usual charts. Making a new 1-10 chart would cause each number to include way too many possibilities, me thinks. Like... Str 10 would be what, 25,000 to 500,000 tons of weight? -_-' Let's just expand the charts! (And somebody has done it already if I remember well)
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Post by WildKnight on Dec 30, 2008 8:29:06 GMT -5
Ugh! Flash does NOT regularly exceed light speed. In fact, if he ever does exceed light speed, he risks being permanently drawn into the Speed Force, never to return.
Flash *can* run at faster than the speed of light, but its a REALLY bad idea.
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Post by Thuellai on Dec 30, 2008 15:30:01 GMT -5
Depends on the Flash. Wally West, yeah, he doesn't blast past lightspeed too often, but Bart Allen's been known to... And I can't count on both hands how often I've seen the Flash go so fast he ends up time-travelling. Sometimes on accident. That suggests relativistic speeds to me (I'm blatantly ignoring the "cosmic treadmill")
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Post by Mister Sinister on Dec 30, 2008 15:59:40 GMT -5
If we had a chart like this, it would be tons of fun to do crossovers! (It COULD be a problem, as DC characters are based on a more powerful template!)
However, if you reallocate benchmarks for the scale...wouldn't that require a total overhaul of ANs, D&R, MNs, stone costs...everything?
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Post by WildKnight on Dec 30, 2008 16:04:17 GMT -5
Barry Allen couldn't run faster than the speed of light either, without speed force induced mishap. Thats how he got flung into the future and was unable to return in the first place.
No Flash save the "future Flash" can travel time with impunity. The rest do so only at great personal risk.
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Post by Thuellai on Dec 30, 2008 16:21:59 GMT -5
True enough. For some reason I remember a LOT of Flash-Time-Travel plotlines.
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Post by WildKnight on Dec 30, 2008 16:25:30 GMT -5
There are a lot. But only by accident.
I'm not saying Flash DIES every time he travels faster than the speed of light... just that SOMETHING he doesn't want to happen, happens.
The Speed Force is a bigger deus ex machina in DC comics than Kryptonian Heritage and the Green Lantern Corps combined. Any time they want to do something to one of the Flashes... "oops, the Speed Force did it!"
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Post by Thuellai on Dec 30, 2008 16:26:28 GMT -5
Yeah, most of them are by accident. Crazy Speed Force. How would you write Flash, by the way? I've seen a lot of different approaches.
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Post by WildKnight on Dec 30, 2008 16:30:14 GMT -5
I'd write it up as a Mastery, because in that case, its actually fitting.
Flash can do A LOT of tricks, so it'd be a funky writeup. Let me put some stuff on paper and get back to you.
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Post by Scriptus on Dec 30, 2008 17:15:53 GMT -5
Finding a way to make the flight speed row on the D&R chart and the land speed row equal would be a nice start. Then there is no need to redo two rows. I can see why they have 2 separate speed rows but I wish they would have just had one. It would have made things simpler from a mechanics perspective.
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