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Post by Puck on Jul 5, 2012 21:01:29 GMT -5
It really seems no worse to me than force field. Both require you have enough stones to do it, both can be used on multiple people, both cancel out twice as much damage as you receive. Chaos Shield just requires that your other action is taken up. If anything, having Healing and Force Field as separate actions would be even more powerful, and that's completely possible. Except healing limited by An daily
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Post by WildKnight on Jul 5, 2012 21:02:15 GMT -5
It really seems no worse to me than force field. Both require you have enough stones to do it, both can be used on multiple people, both cancel out twice as much damage as you receive. Chaos Shield just requires that your other action is taken up. Well, for starters, Force Field is pretty much universally understood to be broken, so your argument is already not particularly strong. Unfortunately, there's the added factor that Force Field ONLY "cancels" incoming damage. This Action "undoes" existing damage. In addition, Force Field, even with the "vs. mental" and "vs. magic" doesn't cover every possible attack. A Force Field is no good against someone with Mastery of Air and Unlimited Create/Manipulate simply ripping the air directly out of your lungs, or transforming that air into chlorine gas.
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Post by donmonte on Jul 5, 2012 21:06:50 GMT -5
Ah. I was thinking Healing was red stones of health per panel, and white stones of health per day, but I'm guessing it's actually red stones of energy per panel. My mistake.
Then yeah... it's a bit powerful.
Edit: Here's a possible solution... just use Force Field with the flavor of it blocking half of the damage and healing the other half. It's not exactly "reverses poison" level, but the flavor's there.
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Post by leska on Jul 18, 2012 2:10:31 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I have yet again another action to price and need your help to do so. I made a Character named Nurse Joy; a psychotic woman who is obsessed with experimentation. Originally i just gave her genetic engineering and manipulate mutantgeic fields, but a part of me just wanted to make it a mastery much like Elixir's power of biological manipulation. So far this is what I have:
-Create/Manipulate (1) - Force Blast (Forced Evolutionary Change); ATK vs DUR to act like a force Genetic Engineer or Mutagenic Manipulation (1) - 2x Effect (2) - Accumulate Energy; AOE of force blast (2) - Can Combine Mastery with Abilities (8) {Just something to make it fun since she loves to alter things why not being able to alter herself, right?} - Extra Ordinary Power (8) -Power out of control (-2) - Others are not shielded (-1) - Power causes her obsession to worsen if she doesn't use it daily, will cause her to eventually turn on her allies to "better" them (-2) AN + 17?
I'm open to suggestions if there are any to be said which i kinda think there will be, but I wanted to make something like this for sometime and just hadn't had the time to think of it fully.
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Post by donmonte on Jul 18, 2012 2:34:57 GMT -5
Good god! You realize that would be 55 white stones for an AN of 1, right? I mean, yeah... the pricing seems about right, since it seems to be more powerful than Power Cosmic, but I have no idea how you'd afford it.
Of course, I've been wrong before, so maybe wait for other opinions.
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Post by leska on Jul 18, 2012 3:20:27 GMT -5
I know its pretty powerful, but like i said I've been contemplating this for some time and its just something i want to see done.
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Post by kito on Jul 18, 2012 10:23:55 GMT -5
it seems priced right to me but even with a +17 to cost i could not see any gm ever letting u do it enterly because every tine she uses her power the game stops to find out who gets what and how strong.
Maby the force blast should cost more as it is more like manipulate mutant field then actual dmg so its not really a force blast at all.
i dont see how she can combine it with an ability, i see it more of like an energy she poses that mutates the human/mutant/robot/ect body, i would amuse she is immune to her power or she would be mutating consistently as u have it out of control.
Idk if a gm would let u get a AOE option and then others not shielded as AOE pretty much means it hits every 1 in the area.
Wut about the power is out of control? can she not control when it goes off? can she not control how many stones go into it? ect,
Power causes her obsession to worsen if she doesn't use it daily, will cause her to eventually turn on her allies to "better" them see this more of an mental illness then a power disability so I would give it to u as a challenge for like 1-3 for mental illness, but not as a -2 to a power
-Create/Manipulate (1) Wut are u creating manipulating? - Force Blast (Forced Evolutionary Change); ATK vs DUR to act like a force Genetic Engineer or Mutagenic Manipulation (1) +4 maby as its not a "real" foceblast just ranged muti field
- 2x Effect (2)
- Accumulate Energy; AOE of force blast (2) (idk how outhers use it but i dont use it as a AOE it is for Super effects) - 2x Or AOE +4 - Can Combine Mastery with Abilities (8) {Just something to make it fun since she loves to alter things why not being able to alter herself, right?} -immune to power +1 - Extra Ordinary Power (8) 10 as it up in mastery of matter/time area -Power out of control (-2) (how?
- Others are not shielded (-1) (who would be shielded anyway? - Power causes her obsession to worsen if she doesn't use it daily, will cause her to eventually turn on her allies to "better" them (-2) (this is not a disiblity but a mental illness AN + 17?
AN 18 -2 depending no it out of control = AN16 for this by my crazy mind, fux what i left if u want like create/manipulate idk y u had it what where u making? or manipulating? the power itself is manipulating The body.
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Post by kito on Jul 18, 2012 10:42:54 GMT -5
Okay so lately i've been thinking of different actions that could possibly be made and i'm not 100% on how i would price them One of them is from the facebook marvel: avenger alliance game. Recently, they added scarlet witch and she possess an ability called Chaos Shield; it protects her and her allies from incoming attack by making them heal instead of damage, it also filters the harmful effects of attacks and converts them into their opposite. So like poison becomes like a Regen effect and etc. Though this does have a chance of failing to do anything. I was curious to how I would price this in the marvel universe system cause personally i think it could be a fun action to use, I'm just not 100% on how to price it. I have a player with almost the same power guess he got it form this game. with me he has mastery of Chaotic force witch works like this Mastery of Chaos force AN+5 Create/manipulate +1 Foce-blast +1 (2x) Flight +2 imune +1 Free Energy = to outer people luck and bad luck mods +2 total of an+12 and he just uses it like chos bolts or MOM maing up wut he want/need it to do as it goes he has made focefiled that take dmg and turn them into hp before by create manipulate as they where vs thugs befor it was easy so e.g Mastery of chaos of 4 4 into mastery create/manipulate for force field 2 for field 1 for AOE and 1 for effect of all dmg hitting the field is stooped and turnd into "healing" energy or chi inside the force filed (granted anything with a AN bigger then the force field just breaks it but as it get strong his power will be more usefull.
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Post by leska on Jul 18, 2012 12:07:31 GMT -5
it seems priced right to me but even with a +17 to cost i could not see any gm ever letting u do it enterly because every tine she uses her power the game stops to find out who gets what and how strong. Maby the force blast should cost more as it is more like manipulate mutant field then actual dmg so its not really a force blast at all. i dont see how she can combine it with an ability, i see it more of like an energy she poses that mutates the human/mutant/robot/ect body, i would amuse she is immune to her power or she would be mutating consistently as u have it out of control. Idk if a gm would let u get a AOE option and then others not shielded as AOE pretty much means it hits every 1 in the area. Wut about the power is out of control? can she not control when it goes off? can she not control how many stones go into it? ect, Power causes her obsession to worsen if she doesn't use it daily, will cause her to eventually turn on her allies to "better" them see this more of an mental illness then a power disability so I would give it to u as a challenge for like 1-3 for mental illness, but not as a -2 to a power -Create/Manipulate (1) Wut are u creating manipulating? - Force Blast (Forced Evolutionary Change); ATK vs DUR to act like a force Genetic Engineer or Mutagenic Manipulation (1) +4 maby as its not a "real" foceblast just ranged muti field - 2x Effect (2)- Accumulate Energy; AOE of force blast (2) (idk how outhers use it but i dont use it as a AOE it is for Super effects) - 2x Or AOE +4 - C an Combine Mastery with Abilities (8) {Just something to make it fun since she loves to alter things why not being able to alter herself, right?}-immune to power +1 - Extra Ordinary Power (8) 10 as it up in mastery of matter/time area -Power out of control (-2) (how? - Others are not shielded (-1) (who would be shielded anyway? - Power causes her obsession to worsen if she doesn't use it daily, will cause her to eventually turn on her allies to "better" them (-2) (this is not a disiblity but a mental illness AN + 17? AN 18 -2 depending no it out of control = AN16 for this by my crazy mind, fux what i left if u want like create/manipulate idk y u had it what where u making? or manipulating? the power itself is manipulating The body. I had create/manipulate since she can create different biological changes in a living organism as well as manipulate current ones like i.e shutting down an x-gene or enhancing it -Immunity (1) to keep her mutations from worsening would make sense - Extra-ordinary (8) [ I was using the base value they had for the collector's cosmic energy mastery and high evolutionary mastery of matter all of which have 8 without options] - Force Blast is one of the things it could live without, just something that looked fun to use. -Area Attack or 2x Effect is something I hadn't thought of but it works (4) -Create/Manipulate (1) -Increase Abilities by AN (not sure how this one would be priced but i know for putting up actions you control up to an of mastery as Collector's mastery does. so maybe +4? just a thought. (undecided) - Power out of control (-2) At this point it would be AN +12 roughly?
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Post by kito on Jul 18, 2012 12:30:06 GMT -5
i see for creat/min but idk if it would work for wut u mean for creat more lik just minpulate, u still not say what abut it is out of contol is all of it aout of control? lik she can control wut actions she uses in it or wut she want to do lik improving or unimproving a power?
SO please specify What is out of control on it.
increase ability just seems lik a ploy it give this hero 10 to all stats idk if it atualy for the power or to try ans break the hero with 10ag,str,speed,dur. but would wut it at +2 per ability so for str only its +2 but for str,ag,speed,,dure its +8 but how is this part of there power?
i still don't think u need create/manipulate because the power itself IS giving and taking away powers i see creating/manipulating more of like Making ice out of thin are or making ice into lik a ice car or ice rocket. with this the DNA are already in the person so your not making any and your power itself is Manipulating the DNA so u dont really need manipulating.
how is see this power is it CANT do dmg, it is for lack of a better term a Big fancy way of imbuing some one with power, so i dont see how it can do dmg ill leave the inbune power to so u can compare and see what u think.
Inbuement:
Cost Level = Se below DESCRIPTION With this power, the hero (or villain), is able to bestow some of his own power upon an item, making it much more deadly and efficient. Some are even able to imbue other living beings with incredible powers... What form, style, appearance the effects takes is up to the character... You want the sword to broaden and light to run over its surface... However, it should always mirror your main power in some way. COMMENTS A potent power in almost every situation... Not to mention other people just love being around you, hoping to get a fix and you will also be able to make a car look much cooler. OPTIONS • Can imbue Objects (+3 to Cost Level) • Can imbue people (+4 to Cost Level) • Can have more than one object/person imbued at a time (+1 to Cost Level), limited by AN. • May be bought as a option for Mastery of Element (GM discretion) • The boost is addictive (-1 to Cost Level). Number of Stones spend equal number of days. • Can only imbue small objects (-1 to Cost Level). Things like knives, pistols, stuff that generally fits in the palm. • Cannot create new Aspects (-1 to Cost Level). You can only enhance what’s already there. • Can only imbue "Normal" living things (-1 to Cost Level). Which means: none-enhanced… Magical, drugs, radiation, etch...) • Cannot imbue yourself (-1 to Cost Level) • Can only Imbue objects and people with powers you already have (-1 to Cost Level) Rules for Action Box: • Enhance one object/person up to AN • Improve/Create Abilities/Actions/Modifiers/Stats • Duration = Stones spend on duration row or as long as touching the imbued object/person (if the touch is broken, the imbuement stops immediately) • Pay for each aspect that’s being enhanced • Cannot enhanced learnable actions (General Knowledge, Close Combat, Social skills, ect...) • Pay 3r to increase Durability by 1 • Options cost 1r per Cost Level increase EXAMPLE: Firoz has a Imbuement Action Number of 5 and wants to Imbue his Knife. He spends 5 red stones, increasing its Modifier from +1 to +4 and gives it 2xDamage (which is a +2 option), making it jagged and glow with a warm glow. In another Panel, he wants to Imbue a car with his Fire. He spends 5 stones, increasing its Manuever modifier by 1 and giving it a flight speed of 4, making its headlights look like devil eyes and its wheels turn into fire...
Off to work will BBl Much later so if i dotn post fo long long time dont be suprised.
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Post by leska on Jul 18, 2012 12:35:44 GMT -5
oooo, i've never seen this one before but sounds nice. For power out of control I meant to have it as she can't always control how much goes into it like under certain circumstances she uses all of her stones like when shes over excited about experimenting.
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Post by Silentking Alpha on Jul 18, 2012 12:41:29 GMT -5
It was under house rules. It was made by a guy named Neros if my knowledge is correct.
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Post by kito on Jul 18, 2012 18:10:33 GMT -5
so then how does she give them power is it by touch? by eye sight ect? if it is buy touch and it is always at full ca she still touch people or does she have to where gloves?
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Post by leska on Jul 19, 2012 4:22:34 GMT -5
It's by touch and she will have the rogue complex so she can't touch people skin to skin without an accidental mutation, but with how her personality is she wouldn't really care who got affected, she would enjoy her new "creation"
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Post by kito on Jul 19, 2012 9:06:39 GMT -5
Well then i guess its done. it is a AN+12-14 ish power mabby more depending on the GM. although to tell you again I don't know any GM would let you have this power mostly Because it stops game play every time u want to "In-prove" some one. Cool power tho one of my Players has a smiler idea there called "Upgrade" only Real difference is they got copy Action/Mod to all the powers they Make with there Mutigenic fields Power.
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