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Aug 31, 2012 22:40:43 GMT -5
Post by WildKnight on Aug 31, 2012 22:40:43 GMT -5
... and I can't think of one of them we're better off for having been introduced to, with the exception of possibly David Boreanaz and James Marsters, and frankly Marsters only matters to me because of his turns on Angel and Smallville.
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Aug 31, 2012 23:46:52 GMT -5
Post by Brainstem on Aug 31, 2012 23:46:52 GMT -5
Alyson Hannigan and Alexis Denisof, maybe? Hannigan isn't what I'd call "good" in Buffy, but she's gone on to some decent things. Denisof, I think, is the Buffyverse cast member with the strongest acting chops. Boreanaz is starting to grow on me more, but I really don't know if I can see him in a role that isn't Angel...
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Sept 1, 2012 1:35:49 GMT -5
Post by Beacon on Sept 1, 2012 1:35:49 GMT -5
No love for Seth Green and Charisma Carpenter?
It’s funny, of the more successful Buffy cast members (whatever happened to Nicholas Brendon anyway), I like Geller the least. I follow some of them on just about everything they do and I’m happy when I see the others pop up but every time I see SMG I think “not again”.
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Sept 1, 2012 1:49:36 GMT -5
Post by Beacon on Sept 1, 2012 1:49:36 GMT -5
And I just looked up Nick Brendon's wiki page. Looks like he makes the occasional TV appearance when he isn’t getting drunk, being arrested, and going into rehab. Damn.
Well, things still went pretty well for most of the main cast.
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Sept 1, 2012 5:49:12 GMT -5
Post by WildKnight on Sept 1, 2012 5:49:12 GMT -5
Hannigan is, as far as I'm concerned, a terrible actress who does the same role over and over... "I appear cute and innocent, but secretly I'm a huge pervert! TEEHEE!" It worked for all of about one American Pie movie.
I can't think of anything I've ever seen Denisof in that wasn't Buffy.
Boreanaz' primary reason for escaping my general sense that these people should be unemployed is that he now works behind the camera as well. He's directed some TV, and is actually "hands on" (unlike a lot of "executive producers") with Producing Bones.
Seth Green I just forgot about. For Robot Chicken alone, he gets a pass from me... although, to be fair, what wast he last movie he was in? Last one I remember was Up A Creek, and that movie was terrible. Greg the Bunny was awesome though, even it it flopped.
At any rate, I was never questioning their success after Buffy; I was pointing out that in my opinion, Buffy unleashed a wave of untalented actors onto the world.
None of which has anything to do with why Buff is clearly not D&D.
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Sept 1, 2012 10:38:28 GMT -5
Post by Black Sam on Sept 1, 2012 10:38:28 GMT -5
Clearly. Also, the best line in Buffy, from the series finale: "I used to be a highly respected Watcher, and now I'm a wounded dwarf with the mystical strength of a doily."
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Sept 1, 2012 12:02:55 GMT -5
Post by WildKnight on Sept 1, 2012 12:02:55 GMT -5
Clearly. Also, the best line in Buffy, from the series finale: "I used to be a highly respected Watcher, and now I'm a wounded dwarf with the mystical strength of a doily."So, your argument is essentially this; "A show whose main viewership was 17 year old nerdy virgins once referenced D&D, so clearly it is the same thing as D&D." Look, Dungeons & Dragons has multiple defining characteristics that Buffy simply doesn't share. D&D is about a team of heroes of (theoretically) equal power and standing, who have to work together to achieve assorted goals. Buffy is about a team of worthless flesh lumps that follow around a superhuman killing machine to achieve the goal of killing evil, but only if evil happens to be within a certain narrow grouping of supernatural creatures. D&D has four archetypal personalities who are based on skill sets rather than personal traits. Buffy has a huge cast of characters none of whom resemble any of the D&D archetypes in anything but the vaguest sense, and who are defined more by their personal traits than by their skill sets (arguably, Willow eventually becomes more defined by being a witch or whatever she is than by being Willow, but still...) D&D is goal oriented. Buffy's goals are always backdrops for personal drama. D&D takes place in a world where the fantastic is common, even to the average shopkeeper. Buffy takes place in a world where the supernatural must be hidden from the common people (for some reason I can't discern). Buffy is MUCH more like a super hero story or a pulp novel than it ever was like D&D. As Heinlein would say "the contrary opinion is nothing but wishful thinking."
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Sept 1, 2012 12:05:47 GMT -5
Post by Black Sam on Sept 1, 2012 12:05:47 GMT -5
Oh, I don't disagree with you, I'm just disagreeing with you.
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Sept 1, 2012 12:07:53 GMT -5
Post by WildKnight on Sept 1, 2012 12:07:53 GMT -5
Oh, I don't disagree with you, I'm just disagreeing with you. One of these days, I'm going to punch you out of the blue. Instead of asking why, just think of this moment.
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Sept 1, 2012 13:26:22 GMT -5
Post by Black Sam on Sept 1, 2012 13:26:22 GMT -5
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Sept 1, 2012 13:37:53 GMT -5
Post by WildKnight on Sept 1, 2012 13:37:53 GMT -5
Don't think you can appease me with Dr. Demento!
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Sept 1, 2012 15:48:18 GMT -5
Post by Black Sam on Sept 1, 2012 15:48:18 GMT -5
Too late, I already thought it. ;D And if that doesn't work, then this:
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Sept 1, 2012 15:59:43 GMT -5
Post by WildKnight on Sept 1, 2012 15:59:43 GMT -5
The internet... where everything I love is turned into something ugly.
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Sept 1, 2012 18:55:40 GMT -5
Post by Dhark on Sept 1, 2012 18:55:40 GMT -5
Too late, I already thought it. ;D And if that doesn't work, then this: That is... AWESOME. And not JUST because I'm on a Star Trek kick right now either. ... and I can't think of one of them we're better off for having been introduced to, with the exception of possibly David Boreanaz and James Marsters, and frankly Marsters only matters to me because of his turns on Angel and Smallville. Marsters also did an AWESOME job doing the audio-books for Desden Files (every single one of them). He's appeared as cameo's here and there on other shows... but bereft of that accent he's not always the easiest to spot! Boreanaz... meh. I like Bones, but I cannot bring myself to say that I think he's anything special in the way of acting. Charisma Carpenter recently looked HORRIBLE in the Expendables I and II... def showing her age, sad to say. I seem to recall my wife watching something recently that had the actress who played Tara in it, and liking it. aaaaand... Anya. Oh Anya, I like her no matter where I see her. Even when I spotted her on the tv the other day whilst flipping channels... and was sad to learn from my wife she was a regular on 90210 back in the day.
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Sept 1, 2012 19:08:52 GMT -5
Post by WildKnight on Sept 1, 2012 19:08:52 GMT -5
Charisma Carpenter's only "talent" faded rather rapidly after her Playboy shoot
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