Marvel - Regenesis

[Manah]

...So far, 4/4 interested people are okay with the randomized powers deal - mostly as long as the packages make some sort of sense.

Anyone else?

[kira]

Random is why I sign up. Lets do it.

[Manah]

Hey, Kira. Sounds good.

Alright. So... I think we'll move on with the random powers idea then. Thanks guys.

And now, for my next question before we move on with the house rules and stone counts. I would like to create a new D&R chart. Said D&R chart would, among other things, include a human level range of abilities going from 1 to 5 instead of stopping at 3 in order to allow more differences between humans/human-level individuals in terms of abilities.

And I was thinking of using this game to playtest it for the first time, so here's me asking you fellas if you would mind.

[Ushima911]

I'm okay with the idea. I personally think the current D&R chart is non-human friendly as it is.

[lilithsboy]

Hmm that is okay by me but I take it there is some sort of sharp spike after 5.... I mean going from worlds strongest man Hulk is very very quick.

Oh and sorry I needed to come up with a concept.

Orphaned guy turned street thug who was always more interested in picking fights with the real trouble on the streets, but of course ended up with a record anyway.

[Manah]

There were some ridiculous spikes in the original D&R chart, you know. Str 2 can lift up to 250 lbs, and all of a sudden, Str 3 can lift 1,000? ...Geez. The D&R I'm working on goes up to 12 (which doesn't mean one cannot exceed it), which gives more room to spread things out a bit. ^_^

Concept sounds good, thanks!

EDIT: Also, one of my biggest pet peeves for the so-called human limit: Speed. At AN 3, max speed of 40 MPH. Oh, really? ...The fastest a human ever ran was a little tiny weeny bit over 27 MPH. Nowhere close to that upper limit of 40. Also, Paul Anderson was once able to lift a little under 3 metric tons, the heaviest weight ever lifted by a human. Don't see that happening with a Str of 3, heh.

[lilithsboy]

Oh I agree that there were problems which was why I was asking. But cool

[Manah]

I want to make sure that not all humans with solid training end up with 3s everywhere. I like to think there would be a lot more variation for the more human level heroes if they had more room for improvement than just 3 ANs. ^_^

[Manah]

Okay, so I MIGHT be making the table going up to 20. I just want to classify some things on it that would otherwise be left a bit unclear.

[Ushima911]

20? Sounds like it could get expensive to be above average strength/fast/smart.. I don't doubt your abilities to create a chart, but simple is always good too. You don't have to overcomplicate things to be great. Not saying you do, but DAMN I see the CADS you make sometimes lol....... I always thought a human D&R would look something like this, when it came to strength at least:

Strength 1: Atrophic (Can lift up to 30 lbs)
Strength 2: Below Average (Can lift up to 80 lbs)
Strength 3: Average (Can lift up to 120 lbs)
Strength 4: Above average (Can lift up to 200 lbs)
Strength 5: Weightlifter (Can lift up to 350 lbs)
Strength 6: Gifted (Can lift up to 600 lbs)
Strength 7: Super human(Can lift up to 1000 lbs)
Strength 8: Inhuman (Can lift up to 2000 lbs)
Strength 9: Extreme inhuman (Can lift up to 4000 lbs)
Strength 10 Godlike (Can lift up to 6000 lbs) (The most a human has ever lifted was a little over 6k)


Something along those lines.. I can't even imagine how it'd go in the 20s, but that's for you to decide. I just hope it's not TOO expensive to be average in most things.

[Manah]

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying I changed the regular AN 10 D&R to an equivalent AN 20 with the same limits, I'm saying I wanted to cover more grounds than the normal D&R chart. So no, being able to lift 100 tons will not mean an AN 20 for CL of 20. With my house rules, it would be AN/CL 11, so only 1 more than the base rules.

What I mean by the table going up to 20 is I also want to cover the more ridiculous levels. For example, on my table, Vibranium has a Hardness of 18. Light speed is AN 20 of Flight, and a fully enraged Hulk will have Str 20 (base Str 12, plus 8 additional levels from Rage).

There is a difference, but it's not ridiculous. It simply allows normal humans more room to grow, and it covers more ridiculous levels up to AN 20. Some beings would be over even that; for example, my version of Superman has 23 Str.

EDIT: Also, as to how much it would cost to be average with my new rules... 'Normal Human' is now AN 2 for all abilities, so it would cost 4w2r to be average in all abilities. I think it's still quite reasonable.

[Ushima911]

I suppose we'll have to wait to see what's brewing in that crazy head of yours, then. I never had a problem with anything you were saying, I was just hoping that my (average human leveled) brain could handle it.

[RidiculousNinja]

Bump Superman -_-

Anyway the next week may be easier or harder to post it really could lean one way or another just so you know!

Nothing against anyone who likes Superman btw I just think he’s ridiculous and stupid

[Manah]

Trust me, Ushima, it'll be a lot simpler to wrap your average human leveled brain around once you see it.

Noted, ridiculousninja. Thanks for the heads up. (By the way, while I'm not a major fan of Superman, I don't dislike the Big Blue myself. I think his concept is actually good, just poorly used by most of its writers, and overblown by its most loyal fanboyz. For example, sure, having Kryptonite as a weakness is great to even the odds with him. But for the love of God, STOP making him power through its effects with sheer willpower every single time he's affected by it. If it does not impede you, it is not a flaw! Idjuts.)

'Sides, if we wanna talk about ridiculous and stupid, I know for a fact we could find worse if we tried.

But hey, why don't I show you guys what I've done so far with the D&R chart? ...It's not complete yet (so don't worry about the empty squares of the gibberish about rows and columns), but so far what I've made seems pretty solid. I'll post it below this here post.

[Manah]

DIFFICULTY

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Intelligence

Simple-minded Green Hulk, Isaac Dian

Normal Beast Boy, Eddie Brock

Smart Gambit, Sailor Venus

Gifted Daredevil, Lucy Heartfilia

Genius Beast, Black Leg Sanji

Exceptional Genius Sylar, Integra Hellsing

World Authority Tony Stark, Batman

Supergenius Sailor Mercury, Sherlock Holmes

Mastermind Kisuke Urahara, Light Yagami

Superhuman The Doctor, The Emperor of Man

Immeasurable Q, The Celestials

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Omniscient The One-Above-All, Akasha

Strength

Weak Aunt May, Mikuru Asahina

Normal Bruce Banner, Hiro Nakamura

Strong Cyclops, Chun Li

Very Strong Batman, Wolverine

Peak Human Kingpin, Natsumi Tsujimoto

Enhanced Human Captain America, Niki Sanders

Beyond Human

Superhuman

Enhanced Superhuman

Metahuman

Enhanced Metahuman

Unearthly Juggernaut, Green Hulk

Class 200

Class 500

Class 1000

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Class 5000

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Fully Enraged Green Hulk

Agility

Clumsy

Normal

Dexterous

Athletic

Peak Human

Enhanced Human

Beyond Human

Superhuman

Enhanced Superhuman

Metahuman

Enhanced Metahuman

Unearthly

Immeasurable

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Speed

Slow

Normal

Fast

Atheltic

Peak Human

Enhanced Human

Beyond Human

Superhuman

Subsonic

Mach Speed

Supersonic

Hypersonic

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Quicksilver's Speed

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Durability

Frail

Normal

Tough

Tough-as-nails

Peak Human

Enhanced Human

Beyond Human

Superhuman

Enhanced Superhuman

Metahuman

Enhanced Metahuman

Unearthly

Immeasurable

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Weight Use Str to Lift or Carry. Throw damage = 2x red stones

Up to 50 lbs Personal Computer, Garbage Can

50-100 lbs Kitchen Table, Television

100-250 lbs Refrigerator, Male Human Adult

250-500 lbs Motorcycle, Adeptus Astartes Power Armors

500-1000 lbs Siberian Tiger, Coffin

1000 lbs-1 ton Small Car, Male Polar Bear

1-2 tons

2-5 tons

5-10 tons

10-25 tons

25-50 tons

50-100 tons

100-200 tons

200-500 tons

500-1,000 tons

1,000-2,500 tons

2,500-5,000 tons

5,000-10,000 tons

10,000-25,000 tons

25,000-50,000 tons

Running Also Web-slinging, Wall-crawling, etc. Use Speed. No cost to move under 5 mph.

5-10 MPH

10-15 MPH

15-20 MPH

20-25 MPH

25-30 MPH

30-40 MPH

40-75 MPH

75-125 MPH

125-250 MPH

250 MPH-Mach 1

Mach 1-2

Mach 2-5

Mach 5-10

Mach 10-20

Mach 20-50 (Escape Velocity = Mach 33)

Mach 50-100

Mach 100-250

Mach 250-500

Mach 500-1,000

Mach 1,000-5,000

Flying Add extra stones to carry extra weight (as Lifting)

Up to 10 MPH R=1

10-30 MPH R=1

30-75 MPH R=1

75-125 MPH R=1

125-200 MPH R=2

200-300 MPH R=2

300-500 MPH R=2

500-750 MPH R=2

Mach 1-2 R=3

Mach 2-5 R=3

Mach 5-10 R=4

Mach 10-20 R=4

Mach 20-100 R: 5

Mach 100-250 R: 5

Mach 250-1,000 R: 6

Mach 1,000-5,000 R: 6

Mach 5,000-20,000 R: 7

Mach 20,000-100,000 R: 7

Mach 100,000-500,000 R: 8

Mach 500,000-Light Speed R: 8

Leaping Use Str, Agl, Spd of Acrobatics AN.

Up to 5'

5'-10'

10'-15'

15'-20'

20'-30'

30'-50'

50'-100'

100'-200'

200'-500'

500'-1,000'

1,000'-2,500'

2,500'-1 mile

1-3 miles

3-10 miles

10-20 miles

20-50 miles

50-100 miles

100-250 miles

250-500 miles

500-1,000 miles

Area Diameter of Area Effects

Up to 10'

10'-25'

25'-100'

100'-250'

250'-1,000'

1,000'-2,500'

2,500'-1 mile

1 mile-3 miles

3 miles-10 miles

10 mile-100 miles

100 miles-500 miles

500 miles-1,000 miles

1,000-10,000 miles Earth Diameter

10,000 miles-1 million miles

1-100 million miles

100 million-10 billion miles Solar System Diameter

10 billion-10 trillion miles

10 trillion-10 quadrillion miles

10 quadrillion-10 quintillion miles

10 quadrillion-5+ sextillion miles The Universe

Ranges

Close Quarters Up to 10'

Very Short Range 10'-30 yards

Short Range 30 yards-100 yards

Medium Range 100 yards-500 yards

Long Range 500 yards-1,760 yards (1 mile)

Bombardment Range 1 mile-3 miles

Cruiser Range 3 miles-10 miles

Battleship Range 10 miles-20 miles

Missile Range 20 miles-100 miles

Extreme Range 100 miles-1,000 miles

Intercontinental Range 1,000 miles-5,000 miles

Unlimited Range 5,000+ miles

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Duration

1 panel 30 seconds

10 panels 5 minutes

120 Panels 1 hour

500-1,000 panels 4 to 8 hours

1,000-3,000 panels 8 hours to One day

3,000-15,000 panels One to 5 days

15,000-20,000 panels 5 days to One Week

20,000-100,000 panels One to 5 weeks

100,000-1 million panels 5 weeks to One year

1 million-100 million panels One year to One century

100 million panels-1 billion panels One century to One millennium

1+ billion panels Eternal duration

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Environmental Damage Red stones of damage/person/panel of exposure

Low-level radiation

Noxious Gas

Intense Heat or Cold

Burning Building

Poisonous Gas

High-level Radiation

Violent Storm

Hurricane

Prolonged/repeated blast-like situation

Firestorm

F5 Tornado

Totally Hostile Environment

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Atomic Bomb Ground Zero

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Antimatter Bomb Ground Zero

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Black Hole Gravific Forces

Hardness Break or smash. Use Strength.

Plastic, Cardboard

Leather, Wood

Hard plastic

Bulletproof Glass, Brick

Lead, Copper, Aluminum

Iron

Steel

Titanium

Chromium, Hardened Steel

Diamond

Most advanced Eathly Metal Alloys

Nanocomposite Metal

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Cosmic Metal Silver Surfer's Board

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Vibranium

Adamantium

Vibranium-Adamantium Alloy Captain America's Shield

Opening Locks

Latch R=1

Common Lock (Padlock, Handcuffs) R=4

Commercial Lock (Standard Safe) R=9

Jail Door, FBI/U.N Level Security R=100

Bank Vault, X-Men Mansion R=1,200

Fort Knox, S.H.I.E.L.D Security R=3,000

Supernatural Defense R= 5,000-7,000

Advanced Alien Security R=7,000-15,000

Legendary Defenses R=3,000+

Overcome a God's Defenses R=10,000+

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Technology

Row 16 column 2

Row 16 column 3

Row 16 column 4

Row 16 column 5

Row 16 column 6

Row 16 column 7

Row 16 column 8

Row 16 column 9

Row 16 column 10

Row 16 column 11

Row 16 column 12

Row 16 column 13

Vehicle Operations R = D unless noted otherwise. R is per panel to operate. May combine red stones to overcome R.

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Row 17 column 3

Row 17 column 4

Row 17 column 5

Row 17 column 6

Row 17 column 7

Row 17 column 8

Row 17 column 9

Row 17 column 10

Row 17 column 11

Row 17 column 12

Row 17 column 13

General Education Level

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Row 18 column 3

Row 18 column 4

Row 18 column 5

Row 18 column 6

Row 18 column 7

Row 18 column 8

Row 18 column 9

Row 18 column 10

Row 18 column 11

Row 18 column 12

Row 18 column 13

Games AN 0: Tic Tac Toe, Odds/Evens, etc.

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Row 19 column 3

Row 19 column 4

Row 19 column 5

Row 19 column 6

Row 19 column 7

Row 19 column 8

Row 19 column 9

Row 19 column 10

Row 19 column 11

Row 19 column 12

Row 19 column 13

Scientific Specialty

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Row 20 column 3

Row 20 column 4

Row 20 column 5

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Row 20 column 7

Row 20 column 8

Row 20 column 9

Row 20 column 10

Row 20 column 11

Row 20 column 12

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Wealth Net Worth/Monthly or Issue Income AN -1: Dead Broke, $0 AN 0: Broke, $5,000/$50