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Post by Brainstem on Aug 24, 2013 0:59:26 GMT -5
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Post by takewithfood on Aug 24, 2013 9:40:50 GMT -5
Affleck has come a long way since Daredevil, too. ~TWF Not really. Maybe "a long way" is a stretch, but I do think he's developed a little as an actor and proven himself as a director. If you take a look at his filmography, he goes from "winning" regular Golden Raspberry awards to BAFTA and Golden Globe nominations and wins. Awards are a bit of a crap-shoot, but I think in this case they're a sign of some genuine growth. Doesn't mean he's right to be Batman, but I'm still going to hold my tongue until I at least see a trailer. And I hope they don't get Matt Damon to play Supes. lol Oh snap. I hope he didn't get too used to having his hair grown back. ~TWF
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Post by toast on Aug 24, 2013 12:17:03 GMT -5
Maybe "a long way" is a stretch, but I do think he's developed a little as an actor and proven himself as a director. If you take a look at his filmography, he goes from "winning" regular Golden Raspberry awards to BAFTA and Golden Globe nominations and wins. Awards are a bit of a crap-shoot, but I think in this case they're a sign of some genuine growth. Doesn't mean he's right to be Batman, but I'm still going to hold my tongue until I at least see a trailer. And I hope they don't get Matt Damon to play Supes. lol I don't merit growth by movie awards. I believe they are fixed and political. Granted I haven't seen any movie he's directed. I'm a hater. He grates my last nerve. I don't know why. Maybe it's his perpetual, smug appearance. He's a tool. So, being an admitted hater, my opinion is skewed and not relevant. What your saying reads well, but I'm not buying it. Not that you're wrong, but Ben Affleck is mediocre to me. Matt Damon would've made an excellent Daredevil. I've always said that. He made Borne Identity instead. You think he could have been a good Booster Gold? I'm thinking about his Oceans role and the Informer for this stretch. You think Damon could pull off a good Mister Miracle? Damon as Superman? I don't think so. Of course I get the joke, but what super hero would be the perfect Damon fit?
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Post by takewithfood on Aug 24, 2013 18:50:51 GMT -5
Maybe "a long way" is a stretch, but I do think he's developed a little as an actor and proven himself as a director. If you take a look at his filmography, he goes from "winning" regular Golden Raspberry awards to BAFTA and Golden Globe nominations and wins. Awards are a bit of a crap-shoot, but I think in this case they're a sign of some genuine growth. Doesn't mean he's right to be Batman, but I'm still going to hold my tongue until I at least see a trailer. And I hope they don't get Matt Damon to play Supes. lol I don't merit growth by movie awards. I believe they are fixed and political. Granted I haven't seen any movie he's directed. I'm a hater. He grates my last nerve. I don't know why. Maybe it's his perpetual, smug appearance. He's a tool. So, being an admitted hater, my opinion is skewed and not relevant. What your saying reads well, but I'm not buying it. Not that you're wrong, but Ben Affleck is mediocre to me. Matt Damon would've made an excellent Daredevil. I've always said that. He made Borne Identity instead. You think he could have been a good Booster Gold? I'm thinking about his Oceans role and the Informer for this stretch. You think Damon could pull off a good Mister Miracle? Damon as Superman? I don't think so. Of course I get the joke, but what super hero would be the perfect Damon fit? I think you're reading too much into my posts. I agree that he's mediocre - and that's a big improvement from some of the crap he's done before. ~TWF
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Post by takewithfood on Aug 26, 2013 13:38:15 GMT -5
Just finished watching The Amazing Spider-Man, the 2012 movie.
It was quite a mess. The biggest problem is that the movie suffers from an identity crisis on every level. I can't tell if it's supposed to be funny, dramatic, gritty, or schlocky. The plot is schlock: Peter Parker is a boy genius son of a super spy scientist who was friends with a semi-mad scientist who eventually turns himself into a lizard monster - oh, and Peter falls in love with the police chief's daughter, who is also the star intern of said semi-mad scientist. Peter gets unexplained and poorly-defined super powers after being bitten by a magic spider and becomes a super hero with a really cool costume that he somehow sews for himself off-screen after his uncle is randomly shot by a generic 80's-style "bad guy". Scientist guy turns into a giant lizard because because, and peter has to fight him because because because.
If you weren't already familiar with Spider Man, this movie would make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. Even knowing the story, it barely holds itself together.
On another level, Peter has almost no identity. Is he moody? Is he funny? Is he in love? Is he driven? Is he inspired by his father or uncle? The movie never really gives us enough of a sign either way. Too much happens in too little time, and so clumsily that we never really get to know him. Nor do I understand the villain, who we're sort of explained turns evil when he's the lizard, but why? Ugh.
Emma Stone was good given the weak-tea dialogue; Dennis Leary, too. Everyone else.. meh.
The next movie might actually be better, now that the awkwardness of re-telling the origin story only a decade after the Sam Raimi film is out of the way. Maybe there will be enough time and freedom to tell an actual story.
~TWF
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Post by roxolid on Aug 27, 2013 18:01:38 GMT -5
Only seen it once (when it came out) so maybe my memory is blurred but weren't the fight sequences pretty good? They also made an attempt to make spidey the wisecracking in the face of danger guy we know from the comics.
But yeah, it veers away from the comic books as all movies do, in the 'cater for the masses' way that studios do, rather than cater for a couple hundred thousand fans worldwide.
I didn't like the costume, wasn't bothered about Andrew Garfield in the lead, and rated the film average at best. I'll wait for reviews before seeing any other spidey flicks.
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Post by takewithfood on Aug 27, 2013 18:33:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I liked that they tried to make him the quippy Spiderman. Raimi, or whoever wrote his scripts, never seem to grasp that part of the character; they wrote a nice story (at least for 1, and particularly 2) but seemed to almost regret the fact that it had to be about Spiderman.
This movie was totally unburdened from any sort of passion at all, since it was only ever made in order to legally retain the rights to Spidey, so I guess they had an easier time of adapting. Plus, they had criticism of the first trilogy to work off of.
Still, I didn't find him particularly witty. He mostly just jeered and taunted like an annoying brat. He didn't come across as clever or anything, just a bit of a twerp. It's a step in the right direction, and I hope they improve in the next film, now that the origin story is over and he's 100% Spiderman (or at least he's supposed to be).
The fight scenes were okay. A little too much CGI, and they mostly just had Spidey being really agile; few displays of his strength or toughness. I guess it was hard to get into them because there was so little riding on the line. Spiderman was fighting the Lizard sort of because he had to, and the Lizard was only there because... no reason, really. I guess he was kind of crazy because the serum made him crazy, they didn't really explain that very well, or at all. So, there's a Lizard and he's going to hurt people so Spidey should stop him by I guess kicking him. Meh.
The one time it got exciting was when the Captain showed up guns a blazin'. Suddenly there was a little tension: here's an outcome that I'm not 100% sure of. Up until then I was 100% sure that Spidey wasn't going to let that kid fall to his death, he wasn't going to kill the Lizard or be killed, he wasn't going to beat the Lizard only 40 mins into the movie, and the Lizard wasn't going to kill Captain Stacy? He might be expendable, or he might not be, so there was a bit of tension. It didn't last long, and I should have known they'd go for the quick and easy pathos, but it was there for a bit.
~TWF
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Post by Gris on Oct 5, 2013 20:25:26 GMT -5
Watched Gravity this afternoon, it felt brutally tense and masterful in the atmosphere, I enjoyed it a lot.
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Post by Dhark on Oct 6, 2013 16:21:58 GMT -5
If you weren't already familiar with Spider Man, this movie would make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. Even knowing the story, it barely holds itself together. ~TWF Odd. My wife, who knew next to nothing about the character at all, followed the story easily enough. Her only question was about the webshooters and why he couldn't just make his own or what he'll do when he runs out of cannisters. Personally, I think the identity crisis was intentional. What is Peter at this point but a kid trying to figure out who he is and who he's becoming. As for the plot, it smacks true if 70's coincidence-based plots of old IMO.
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Post by Dhark on Oct 6, 2013 16:27:27 GMT -5
My Summer Movie Highlights since Proboards jacked my account...
Now You See Me Wow. This movie was awesome! I almost wish they'd have had another hour for better character development... But it really wasn't necessary and did awesome on it's own.
Riddick Hello Katee Sackhoff, Oh how I missed you. A fine addition to the series, and a respectable amping of violence/language/sackoff for the elevated rating.
Nothing else really leaps to mind. The previews for Gravity did NOTHING for me... For the life of me I cannot fathom what the possible appeal is. <shrug>
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Post by Dhark on Oct 6, 2013 16:29:09 GMT -5
I DO agree about Batfleck being a horrible choice, despite being in the minirity that really enjoyed Daredevil (The Directors Cut)
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Post by JuggerPool on Oct 7, 2013 11:31:11 GMT -5
I have absolutely no clue how to feel about affleck, he well.. did daredevil and at my young age just getting into comics I enjoyed it kinda (Don't hate me haha)... I wonder how it would have been if the christian bale Batman was with the Henry Cavill supes... Christy is an amazing actor and I've enjoyed his run but i somehow feel it would be weird...
The whole point of batman and superman is to bring dark nd light together, broody and upbeat, and in all honesty, was Bale really that dark and broody? (not sure if affleck could pull it off either though) And they completely neglected his detective skills so how was he suppose to figure out who supes is? Clark would have him figured with X ray vision, so would he just stalk him until superman takes off his suit (or puts on glasses)
I agree with whoever said it before that i would have to see a trailer to decide between Bale nd Affleck and if supes/bats could work....
Thoughts?
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Post by Dhark on Oct 7, 2013 19:02:44 GMT -5
I liked Bale as Batman, and I liked the flicks. I don't feel they ignored his detective sklls anymore than any other incarnation of Batman on the big screen. <shrug>
Personally, I think Bale would be fine for a Bats/Superman crossover. I think Cavill is the let down. I got no trace of Light, Good, or even the Hope they did a great job of TALKING about but never inspiring from him. I saw Grim Acceptance, that's it.
To each their own though.
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Post by takewithfood on Oct 7, 2013 19:11:41 GMT -5
I liked Bale as Batman, and I liked the flicks. I don't feel they ignored his detective sklls anymore than any other incarnation of Batman on the big screen. <shrug> I think Keaton's Batman at least took some stuff back to the batcave for analysis or something.. I could be wrong. It's true, though, none of them have been particularly detective-ish. Still, watching DC's legendary detective reduced to basically grabbing guys and shouting questions into their faces over and over was particularly sad. ~TWF
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Post by Dhark on Oct 7, 2013 19:40:56 GMT -5
Modern Police/Detective-work at it's finest.
Keaton did figure out Joker's chemical combo plan via the Batcomputer... Buuut Bale did a lot more questioning and out-loud-reasoning. <shrug>
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